2013 Leaf bar loss.

[LeftieBiker]

You will still have cool to cold nights, right? That should allow the pack to cool off every night.

[jadman]

I hope so, but the garage can get hot in the summers. I need to get leafspy to verify my battery condition but my calculations based on miles/Kwh and range seems to show a good state for my battery with now 40k miles and still 12 bars.

[cwerdna]

Not sure if it's been pointed out already, but there's already viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18269 on this subject.

[johnbechtold]

My 2013 Leaf SL still charges up to full bars, But the battery only holds 16kW! I'm wondering if they've reprogrammed the system so the bars just don't go away, because mine should be missing 4 bars. I know this because I also have a 2015 that I bought new, and I am very familiar with the way the 24kW battery performs. For example, from a near zero charge state, a full charge takes just under 16kW, which makes perfect sense because I get a little over 4 Mi/kW, so 4 X 16 = 62, which is very close to the actual range of the car.

So how do you get it warranteed if the capacity drops to half, but no bars are missing????!!!!???? I want to go more that 60 miles on a full charge!!

Anybody else experiencing this with the 2013? I've seen other leafs with bars lost, but I've never heard of dropping capacity with no bar loss!

John- 1015 Leaf LV bought new in January 2016 currently maintaining full capacity and range at 23,500 miles...(No Fast Charger), and a
2013 Leaf SL with 30,500 miles and a capacity of 16kW, and 58-60 miles, and the Quick Charge system, with no bars missing.

[Oils4AsphaultOnly]

My 2013 Leaf SL still charges up to full bars, But the battery only holds 16kW! I'm wondering if they've reprogrammed the system so the bars just don't go away, because mine should be missing 4 bars. I know this because I also have a 2015 that I bought new, and I am very familiar with the way the 24kW battery performs. For example, from a near zero charge state, a full charge takes just under 16kW, which makes perfect sense because I get a little over 4 Mi/kW, so 4 X 16 = 62, which is very close to the actual range of the car.

So how do you get it warranteed if the capacity drops to half, but no bars are missing????!!!!???? I want to go more that 60 miles on a full charge!!

Anybody else experiencing this with the 2013? I've seen other leafs with bars lost, but I've never heard of dropping capacity with no bar loss!

John- 1015 Leaf LV bought new in January 2016 currently maintaining full capacity and range at 23,500 miles...(No Fast Charger), and a
2013 Leaf SL with 30,500 miles and a capacity of 16kW, and 58-60 miles, and the Quick Charge system, with no bars missing.

I'd get the leaf-spy gids reading and file a warranty claim against the battery meter (at 4 years, and just over 30k miles, your accessories warranty might still be valid). Once that meter's fixed, then you should be able to make a claim against the battery warranty.

[SeasonsAfter]

My nissan leaf is close to the warranty replacement date but I don't think I can get there with my leaf spy stats. Any suggestions? I have four months before the warranty expires.

2013 S leaf
33k miles odo
build date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 47.47
soh 72%
hx 66.07%
0 qc
73.3% gids
206 gids

I live in San Diego so it doesn't get too cold in the winter and run the hell out of it for the warranty but am afraid to kill the battery after the warranty period. I tried to call nissan's leaf line and they indicate you are shit out of luck if you don't get that 4th bar lost. No assistance on battery from my calls.

Thanks for any suggestions you can provide.

Thanks,

Travis

[Oils4AsphaultOnly]

My nissan leaf is close to the warranty replacement date but I don't think I can get there with my leaf spy stats. Any suggestions? I have four months before the warranty expires.

2013 S leaf
33k miles odo
build date 1/2013
in service date 2/21/2013
AHr 47.47
soh 72%
hx 66.07%
0 qc
73.3% gids
206 gids

I live in San Diego so it doesn't get too cold in the winter and run the hell out of it for the warranty but am afraid to kill the battery after the warranty period. I tried to call nissan's leaf line and they indicate you are shit out of luck if you don't get that 4th bar lost. No assistance on battery from my calls.

Thanks for any suggestions you can provide.

Thanks,

Travis

Since we're now entering winter, you won't have heat to help you with this one. I suggest parking the car at VLBW for long periods of time. Anything under 5% should do. Maybe charge just enough for your day's needs? You'll suffer range anxiety every day until the SOH drops below 68% though. Not a good way to live frankly.

[LeftieBiker]

I have seen zero evidence that leaving a Leaf at a low SOC is any help at all in losing capacity, and it may well do the opposite. The only known substantial factor aside from heat and time is HIGH SOC. Parking the car with a full charge whenever possible and leaving it sitting that way might work, but it also might not work in time.

[Oils4AsphaultOnly]

I have seen zero evidence that leaving a Leaf at a low SOC is any help at all in losing capacity, and it may well do the opposite. The only known substantial factor aside from heat and time is HIGH SOC. Parking the car with a full charge whenever possible and leaving it sitting that way might work, but it also might not work in time.

Really?!

Although anecdotal, my most significant SOH drop came after I got home under VLBW and plugged in, but didn't change the charge timer, so the car sat at VLBW for almost 8 hrs.

OP, I suggest you try it just for the weekend and check your leaf spy stats.

[LeftieBiker]

Did you check the SOH before or after recharging, and did it go back up later?