Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:31 pm

don't know what's normal yet, but I've a 2013 (bought in Oct, manufactured in Sept) that just suffered its first lost bar (~15%) at 31,934. At the rate I'm driving, I'll hit the 60k miles limit before the end of year 4. That means I'm on track to needing a battery replacement right AFTER the warranty expires. :(

Anyone know if Nissan might offer a higher capacity (28kwh?) replacement battery in the future now that the 30kwh leaf is out? Such an offer should help them shore up the resale value of their used leafs/leaves, by making the used ones as a viable alternative to getting a new ICE commuter.
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:05 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:don't know what's normal yet, but I've a 2013 (bought in Oct, manufactured in Sept) that just suffered its first lost bar (~15%) at 31,934. At the rate I'm driving, I'll hit the 60k miles limit before the end of year 4. That means I'm on track to needing a battery replacement right AFTER the warranty expires. :(


Don't give up hope. Drive it as fast as you want, charge as much as you can, use it instead of other cars, and leave it charged up whenever possible and it'll drop those 4 bars.

What City, ST are you in?

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I'll add yours to the wiki when I'm at home, can't get there from here.
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:42 am

LeftieBiker wrote: It looks to me like the cutoff date for the worse 2013 packs is 3/13. After that (mine was a 4/13!) they seem to all have 12 bars, while before April they lose them.


Couldn't that be because cars built that late in the spring weren't actually delivered to the dealer and sold until well into summer, or even later, so they haven't gone through an extra summer of heat yet? Its such a pain that we have to wait >2 years to really see a trend in battery degradation. For all we know now, even the 2015 chemistry may prove to be a bust.
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:07 pm

I still have 12 bars with 41k miles on mine.
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:04 am

24,855Miles on mine and all 12 bares on mine still, 100.84Hx, 100SOC, 65.8Ah Got mine on september not sure when made.
2013 SV Leaf, Level 2 charger, so far all works great! 130Km daily, 100% charge at night on 240 then trickle charge for 8H durring the day on 120v.

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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:35 am

17,000 miles, 55.6 AHr, 85% SOH, 82.5% Hx, 4/2013 mfg - This was a San Francisco car before I got it.

Way worse than the other 2013 data points above? Probably dropping the first bar next summer.
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:39 pm

I noticed my first bar missing on October 5th at 21,302 miles. The car was manufactured January 2013. It spent the first two years in Georgia, and then was shipped out here after auction. Leaf Spy was showing 52.06 AHr, 79% SOH, and 74.56% HX at 96.7% SOC and 21,536 miles on October 11th. I usually charged to 80% for the first six months. I'm now working a new job and charge to 100% on Monday and Thursday mornings, and to 80% the other days. I have charging set to start at 2am daily. This has been a long, hot summer. We were still hitting upper 90's in October.
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:42 pm

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:don't know what's normal yet, but I've a 2013 (bought in Oct, manufactured in Sept) that just suffered its first lost bar (~15%) at 31,934. At the rate I'm driving, I'll hit the 60k miles limit before the end of year 4. That means I'm on track to needing a battery replacement right AFTER the warranty expires. :(

Anyone know if Nissan might offer a higher capacity (28kwh?) replacement battery in the future now that the 30kwh leaf is out? Such an offer should help them shore up the resale value of their used leafs/leaves, by making the used ones as a viable alternative to getting a new ICE commuter.


only a couple months later and few thousand miles less than you (build date 11/13, mileage 28,700ish) and not even halfway to losing my first bar but then again I live in WA :D
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:06 pm

IraqiInvaderGnr wrote:I still have 12 bars with 41k miles on mine.

Me too. I am hovering at 85-86%, so it seems imminent now...
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Re: 2013 Leaf with 1,2,or 3 bars loss?

Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:36 pm

keydiver wrote:
LeftieBiker wrote: It looks to me like the cutoff date for the worse 2013 packs is 3/13. After that (mine was a 4/13!) they seem to all have 12 bars, while before April they lose them.


Couldn't that be because cars built that late in the spring weren't actually delivered to the dealer and sold until well into summer, or even later, so they haven't gone through an extra summer of heat yet? Its such a pain that we have to wait >2 years to really see a trend in battery degradation. For all we know now, even the 2015 chemistry may prove to be a bust.


No. I leased mine on Memorial Day weekend, and that was the hottest Summer the car experienced. It was 93F the day I drove it home.
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