sandeen
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:06 am

baustin wrote:Sep 15, 2017 - AHr=38.17, SOH=58%, Hx=51.70%, odo=25,517 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=2176

It's still holding on to that fourth bar...


That's crazy. I think you should post a picture of leafspy next to the dash indicator so we can make sure you're counting right. :)
2012 SL from TX, (mfg 8/12), used, dropped to 8 bars at 43.50 Ahr, 40,601 miles. my daily stats =/= my collected data on 4-bar losers

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RegGuheert
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:26 am

sandeen wrote:
baustin wrote:Sep 15, 2017 - AHr=38.17, SOH=58%, Hx=51.70%, odo=25,517 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=2176

It's still holding on to that fourth bar...
That's crazy. I think you should post a picture of leafspy next to the dash indicator so we can make sure you're counting right. :)
Really!! According to your spreadsheet, drees and 91040 each lost their FIFTH bar at higher Ah than that.
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
2011 miles at purchase. 10K miles on Apr 14, 2013. 20K miles (55.7Ah) on Aug 7, 2014, 30K miles (52.0Ah) on Dec 30, 2015, 40K miles (49.8Ah) on Feb 8, 2017.
Enphase Inverter Measured MTBF: M190, M215, M250, S280

baustin
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:11 pm

Here's a OneDrive link to the Leaf Spy readings from yesterday. I'll go out and take a picture of the dash later today. I count the bars every time I get in the car, since I expected the fourth bar to drop months ago.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AocGc-txowvahZsYcj33xrajTpoKtQ

Here's a OneDrive link to the dashboard display. Yes, the lights are all lit up. I didn't bother to unplug, I just fired it up to take the picture.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AocGc-txowvahZsZUpvFMahJhD0A8Q

Maybe I just need to drive it more to get the bar to drop. I have not driven it as much, this summer, due to the reduced range. I used to be able to go to the other end of town and back, at highway speeds, with range to spare. Now, I have to charge a half-hour to get home, and watch my speed.
2013 Leaf SV - Cayenne Red - QC Port - LED Headlights

sandeen
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:41 am

baustin, have you done a Nissan battery check? I wonder if you could find a friendly tech who might give you some insight into the numbers they see behind the silly "star" ratings. Maybe Nissan won't even talk to you until that bar drops, but I wonder if a good LEAF tech could give you any insight into the true health of the battery as they see it. Just a thought.
2012 SL from TX, (mfg 8/12), used, dropped to 8 bars at 43.50 Ahr, 40,601 miles. my daily stats =/= my collected data on 4-bar losers

baustin
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:15 pm

sandeen wrote:baustin, have you done a Nissan battery check? I wonder if you could find a friendly tech who might give you some insight into the numbers they see behind the silly "star" ratings. Maybe Nissan won't even talk to you until that bar drops, but I wonder if a good LEAF tech could give you any insight into the true health of the battery as they see it. Just a thought.


I had the battery check and brake fluid replacement done in February. I don't know what data they see, or if they would share it. Since they don't officially recognize Leaf Spy data as useful for anything, I don't know that I would get very far telling them why I know it should have dropped by now. If it doesn't drop by next February, I will have to try a claim for defective battery due to greatly reduced range. I'm trying to drive it as much a possible, and have been plugging it in to charge as soon as I get home. As the range has collapsed, I've had to revert back to driving my diesel pickup for work, and the Leaf has not seen much action this summer.
2013 Leaf SV - Cayenne Red - QC Port - LED Headlights

mehagel65
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Leaf Number: 408268

Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:01 am

mehagel65 wrote:
cwerdna wrote:
mehagel65 wrote:Just dropped my 4th bar. Could not be happier about it. Here are my Leaf Pro Readings.
AHr=41.25, SOH=63, Hx=56.34
2013 SL with 36,680 miles

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nTkLYPxG6tWmKA3u1
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZrOIwQz2E6E8uGy2

Yay! Approximately where are you located? What's the build month on your car? (That's on the driver's side door sticker.)




"Car was built in April 2013 and I'm in Portland OR. It was originally sold in SoCal market and I bought it Certified Pre Owned in Dec 2016. I knew that It had reduced capacity of 3 bars , but I took a chance and bought it , hoping that it would lose the fourth bar before the battery warranty was up. Looks like it paid off. I'll take it into the Dealer tomorrow to get the process going.




Car is currently at dealer having the new battery pack installed. Here is a photo of the pack.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SnsSUFA4PoRAMYK03

mehagel65
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:04 am

mehagel65 wrote:
cwerdna wrote:
mehagel65 wrote:Just dropped my 4th bar. Could not be happier about it. Here are my Leaf Pro Readings.
AHr=41.25, SOH=63, Hx=56.34
2013 SL with 36,680 miles

https://photos.app.goo.gl/nTkLYPxG6tWmKA3u1
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZrOIwQz2E6E8uGy2

Yay! Approximately where are you located? What's the build month on your car? (That's on the driver's side door sticker.)




"Car was built in April 2013 and I'm in Portland OR. It was originally sold in SoCal market and I bought it Certified Pre Owned in Dec 2016. I knew that It had reduced capacity of 3 bars , but I took a chance and bought it , hoping that it would lose the fourth bar before the battery warranty was up. Looks like it paid off. I'll take it into the Dealer tomorrow to get the process going.



:D New Battery Pack is in and currently get approx 101 miles on a full charge. Compared with only 59 miles on a charge with the old battery pack. Attached are my Leaf Spy pro reading with the new battery pack vs the old battery pack.
LSP New Packhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/33w2UbOvAgKyeyL82
LSP Old Packhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/ssDMuIUr6rhqpmUY2
Dash with New Packhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/vtRibPZ3bbiWaGrY2
Dash with Old Packhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/MrtveJ8fXAJGPCtm1

baustin
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Re: Down three capacity bars. How soon will I loose my 4th capacity bar

Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:06 am

Oct 12, 2017
Fourth bar finally dropped on the way home after running some errands. Plugged it in to charge and then took a reading. Appointment to start warranty replacement scheduled for 17 October 2017.

The vehicle was manufactured in January 2013, spent it first two years in Georgia, was auctioned after lease return and brought to Las Vegas. I got it in March 2015. It dropped the first bar in October 2015, the second bar in June 2016, the third bar in November 2016, and the fourth bar in October 2017.

Oct 12, 2017 - AHr=36.81, SOH=56%, Hx=49.75%, odo=25,670 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=2242
Sep 15, 2017 - AHr=38.17, SOH=58%, Hx=51.70%, odo=25,517 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=2176
Sep 15, 2017 - AHr=38.60, SOH=59%, Hx=51.70%, odo=25,517 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=2175
Aug 12, 2017 - AHr=39.25, SOH=60%, Hx=53.34%, odo=25,451 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=2119
May 15, 2017 - AHr=40.96, SOH=62%, Hx=55.96%, odo=25,169 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1989
Jan 09, 2017 - AHr=42.69, SOH=65%, Hx=58.59%, odo=24,787 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1874
Jun 24, 2016 - AHr=47.74, SOH=73%, Hx=66.57%, odo=23,745 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1569
Apr 24, 2016 - AHr=48.58, SOH=74%, Hx=68.12%, odo=23,323 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1478
Feb 23, 2016 - AHr=50.11, SOH=76%, Hx=70.96%, odo=22,874 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1393
Dec 30, 2015 - AHr=51.40, SOH=78%, Hx=73.35%, odo=22,503 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1302
Oct 11, 2015 - AHr=52.06, SOH=79%, Hx=74.56%, odo=21,536 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=1145
Jul 24, 2015 - AHr=55.14, SOH=84%, Hx=80.29%, odo=19,765 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=926
May 16, 2015 - AHr=57.28, SOH=87%, Hx=84.50%, odo=19,338 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=788
Mar 27, 2015 - AHr=58.57, SOH=89%, Hx=87.04%, odo=18,539 miles, QC=4 L1/L2=701
2013 Leaf SV - Cayenne Red - QC Port - LED Headlights

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