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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:45 am

There are also pin-out differences in the wiring harnesses.

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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:04 am

sendler2112 wrote:There are also pin-out differences in the wiring harnesses.


Which is apparently easily overcome, judging by the mid-year change from the 24kwh to 30kwh battery packs in the 2016 S model Leaf.
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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:47 am

Things are easy to change in production when you are building a whole new car all at once. You put the black seats with the black dash with the black center console.. You put in the correct BMS with the correct battery with the correct wiring harness with correct ??? all at once.

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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:04 am

Following this post. =) I have 46k miles on the 2013 Leaf S with only 1 bar lost so far. DOn't expect to make warranty because of the relative "durability" of my pack, but am interested in a 30KW upgrade when the time comes. THe fact that it was engineered to fit in the 24kw spaced hole means it IS a doable upgrade. Nissan WILL take car of making it work by reprogramming the controller and making harness adapters. Price will be interesting. And like others said, it will have to drop some. I'm not really interested in spending $6k on a pack now even with my 2013 only worth about $6k market value! Lol. So in 3 years when I'm up to 90k miles and have lost 4 - 5 bars, I won't be interested in a $6k pack when the car is worth $2k. Nissan will figure out the pricing. I mean, if people would rather junk their cars rather than replace the battery, that will be a PR nightmare.
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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:30 am

baustin wrote:
sendler2112 wrote:There are also pin-out differences in the wiring harnesses.


Which is apparently easily overcome, judging by the mid-year change from the 24kwh to 30kwh battery packs in the 2016 S model Leaf.


what?
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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:55 pm

Although this is a UK development and appears to be based on 24kWh cells, thought it was interesting as it relates to the ongoing conversation:

Hyperdrive Innovation To Offer Nissan (LEAF) Batteries For Various Applications

http://insideevs.com/hyperdrive-innovation-to-offer-nissan-leaf-batteries-for-various-applications/

https://hyperdriveinnovation.com/technology/

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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:54 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
baustin wrote:
sendler2112 wrote:There are also pin-out differences in the wiring harnesses.


Which is apparently easily overcome, judging by the mid-year change from the 24kwh to 30kwh battery packs in the 2016 S model Leaf.


what?


What are you questioning? You need to provide more detail for anyone to attempt to answer.
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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:02 pm

baustin wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
baustin wrote:
Which is apparently easily overcome, judging by the mid-year change from the 24kwh to 30kwh battery packs in the 2016 S model Leaf.


what?


What are you questioning? You need to provide more detail for anyone to attempt to answer.


I am questioning your assumption that modification of an existing 24 kwh platform to a 30 kwh platform is just as easy as a purposefully built S30
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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:11 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
baustin wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
what?


What are you questioning? You need to provide more detail for anyone to attempt to answer.


I am questioning your assumption that modification of an existing 24 kwh platform to a 30 kwh platform is just as easy as a purposefully built S30


I'm saying that doing a mid-year change from a 24kwh battery to a 30kwh battery on an existing model means that it is not impossible to do the change to earlier models. Nissan says no to anyone asking, but has not said it is not possible to do.
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Re: 30 kWh battery in 11-12 or 13-15 Leaf?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:31 pm

baustin wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
baustin wrote:
What are you questioning? You need to provide more detail for anyone to attempt to answer.


I am questioning your assumption that modification of an existing 24 kwh platform to a 30 kwh platform is just as easy as a purposefully built S30


I'm saying that doing a mid-year change from a 24kwh battery to a 30kwh battery on an existing model means that it is not impossible to do the change to earlier models. Nissan says no to anyone asking, but has not said it is not possible to do.


you are aware that a Nissan employee already stated that it could be done, right?
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