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jamieo

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I thought I would start sharing my battery stats. My LEAF is a 2014 SV with the quick-charge package. It has a January 2014 manufacture date and I bought it in February 2015. It had 67 miles on it when I bought it.

I didn't get LeafSpy until later on. For almost the first year I charged at L1 with just a few QCs and L2s. I installed L2 later on. I've charged to 100% overnight.
9/22/2015 251 GIDs

Odometer 8,176 miles AHr=57.47, SOH=87%, Hx=86.53% 388.44V 9/28/2015
Odometer 15,723 miles AHr=58.33, SOH=89%, Hx=88.37% 395.64V 5/18/2016
Odometer 18,826 miles, AHr=58.72, SOH=89%, Hx=89.23% 395.85V 255 GIDs 7/27/2016

As-of today, I have 13 QCs and 760 L1/L2s and 18,826 miles.
 
Thanks for sharing your stats Jamieo. I live in Atlanta so we live in reasonably similar climates. I have a 2015 S with QC and, with a bit more than 1 year left on my 3 year lease, have been trying to determine if the "lizard" battery is truly any better than previous batteries. Your data would seem to suggest it is, as my car with almost 20k miles on it is stilll showing 96% SOH and 275 - 280 Gids (my last 2 readings). Just one data point but it is one more that seems to indicate the 2015 battery will last a bit longer than previous model years. This is an important factor for me in determining whether I buy it at the end of the lease or turn it in. Of course price is the other one, so we'll have to see what NMAC offers next year. Thanks again!
 
Bufordleaf said:
Thanks for sharing your stats Jamieo. I live in Atlanta so we live in reasonably similar climates. I have a 2015 S with QC and, with a bit more than 1 year left on my 3 year lease, have been trying to determine if the "lizard" battery is truly any better than previous batteries. Your data would seem to suggest it is, as my car with almost 20k miles on it is stilll showing 96% SOH and 275 - 280 Gids (my last 2 readings). Just one data point but it is one more that seems to indicate the 2015 battery will last a bit longer than previous model years. This is an important factor for me in determining whether I buy it at the end of the lease or turn it in. Of course price is the other one, so we'll have to see what NMAC offers next year. Thanks again!

You're welcome! I was kind of curious about the impact of having the car sit at the dealer for a year here also. I have a coworker with a 2013 model SL with the following stats:

AHr 55.54 , SOH = 84% 394.57 V Hx 82.31% 29,845 miles. He bought his used last year.
 
2014 Leaf SV, LED lights and quick charge option. Mfgr date on the door is 3/2014
I have no idea if it is a Lizard battery or not, I don't know how to tell.
From Leaf Spy a few days ago when I let it go to 100% charge.
AHr 63.09, SOH=96%, Hx=96.96,
Odo 24,718, 21 QC, 1437 L1/L2
96.7% SOC, 21.2 kWh, 273 GIDS / 97.2%, 61.01 Ah, 395.70v

It was on a 2 year lease in Ogden, UT. I have had it about a month, put 1200 miles on it. I am in Salt Lake City, UT.

I have never paid to charge it, I have surplus solar credits at home with an L2 charger, and free DC charging in town.

I have a Juicebox Pro L2 at home.
The 2014 doesn't have the 80% charge setting option like the 2013 did. I'm very disappointed in that.
So I set the car timer to end at 9am. I set the TOU 'time of use' setting on the Juicebox to end at 7am. So the car starts the charge so that it will get finished by 9am, but the Juicebox shuts off the power at 7am, and that leaves me most mornings with around an 80% charge. It allows me to let it sit over night with 25% to 50% charge most of the time.
 
Man those are some nice stats! 96% SOH with 24k miles, really nice. As for the 80% charge thing, I wouldn't be too concerned. Based on what I have read, it seems most people agree that has little to no impact on battery health.

Btw, I travel to Salt Lake often on business. Great city, great people.
 
These stats are very consistent with my EU 2014 Leaf.
It had about the same degradation when it was at that mileage.

100% charge has some effect on degradation but it is really small. Imagine
extra 1% capacity drop on newer battery packs (like you have) annually.
Difference might be 2-3% per year in hot climates as degradation at both
levels happens faster anyway.

Try to discharge down to 25%. If it gets cold or rainy or whatever, charge to 90%
without hesitation. Also you save money as charging above 95% wastes electricity
due to slower charging speed and constant parasitic load.
 
jamieo said:
Bufordleaf said:
Thanks for sharing your stats Jamieo. I live in Atlanta so we live in reasonably similar climates. I have a 2015 S with QC and, with a bit more than 1 year left on my 3 year lease, have been trying to determine if the "lizard" battery is truly any better than previous batteries. Your data would seem to suggest it is, as my car with almost 20k miles on it is stilll showing 96% SOH and 275 - 280 Gids (my last 2 readings). Just one data point but it is one more that seems to indicate the 2015 battery will last a bit longer than previous model years. This is an important factor for me in determining whether I buy it at the end of the lease or turn it in. Of course price is the other one, so we'll have to see what NMAC offers next year. Thanks again!

You're welcome! I was kind of curious about the impact of having the car sit at the dealer for a year here also. I have a coworker with a 2013 model SL with the following stats:

AHr 55.54 , SOH = 84% 394.57 V Hx 82.31% 29,845 miles. He bought his used last year.


This coworker recently lost his first capacity bar. I don't have the LeafSpy data handy but I will ask him for it.

edited to add ...
I received a little info from him.
Odometer=31,657 AHr- 55.54 SOH=84% 365.43 V Hx=82.25% 16QCs and 1,721 L1/L2s December 1, 2016
 
jamieo said:
December 13, 2016
Odometer 24,479 AHr: 59.66 SOH: 91% 385.35 V Hx: 91.15% 14 QCs and 928 L1/L2


First LeaySpy Reading: Odometer 8,176 miles AHr=57.47, SOH=87%, Hx=86.53% 388.44V 9/28/2015
Most Recent: Odometer 24,479 miles AHr: 59.66 SOH: 91% 385.35 V Hx: 91.15% 14 QCs and 928 L1/L2

It is interesting that in the first year before I bought it, my car went from 100% SOH to 87% and has held steady in that range for the last 2 years. It sat at the dealer (or someplace) for about a year before I bought it.

Here is approximately 1 year:
Odometer 8,176 miles AHr=57.47, SOH=87%, Hx=86.53% 388.44V 9/28/2015
Odometer 20,213 AHr 58.27 SOH= 89% Hx=88.25% 395.37V 14QCs and 822 L1/L2 252 gids 9/4/2016
 
Not my car. Just found one for sale near me (mild climate). Was bought to be a taxi, now retired.
Awesome interior (most likely custom order from factory?)
End of 2013 - most likely same as 2014, has heat pump, LED, leather, rear camera, folding mirrors,
http://eng.auto24.ee/used/2403451?id=2403451
224 572 km mileage (140 k miles). Battery SOH 77%, most charging done on DC.
1200 days old. So on average 187km per day (116mi per day).


Great data. My car will be 8 years old when it will have steering wheel leather look like glass :lol:
My car has 1/3 of that mileage, but not 23% lost capacity, rather 5%. So QC often will add about
a third to capacity loss if done many times per day every day for years.
 
These are the statistics after almost 2 years of ownership and an additional year of sitting in the dealer's lot. My car has a January 2014 manufacture date and I bought it in February 2015.

February 15, 2017 AHr=58.65 SOH=89% 381.57V Hx=89.22% odometer=26,917 14QCs & 1,023 L1/L2s
 
I've got a '14 with very similar battery stats (88% SOH with 21000 miles, 10/14 manufacture date). I find it very interesting that your battery has stayed so consistent over time, and seemed to have improved after having sat for a year unused. Thanks for the updates.

-Jim
 
kingjamez said:
I've got a '14 with very similar battery stats (88% SOH with 21000 miles, 10/14 manufacture date). I find it very interesting that your battery has stayed so consistent over time, and seemed to have improved after having sat for a year unused. Thanks for the updates.

-Jim

you're welcome! I'm a little surprised also, but pleased at the same time.
 
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