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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:22 am

Jedlacks wrote:...

Define "hold their value" You can get a three year old used Tesla for 50% off from the factory. Do a search for Tesla CPO and their site pops up.

...Their batteries have an 8 year warranty 125,000 mile warranty. if you extrapolate the Leaf's battery, you will see that they are inline.

....


Used Tesla's bring an equal or higher price as similarly priced luxury ICE vehicles. Considering the $7500 headwind due to the rebate, I'd say they are holding their value quite well.

You are incorrect on the warrantee terms.
All Tesla's currently offer 8 year, unlimited mileage warranties on the battery and drive train.
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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:29 am

DuncanCunningham wrote:
Jedlacks wrote:
DuncanCunningham wrote:
I'm not insinuating any such thing. You are preaching to the choir. I love my Nissan Leaf and my Wife loves hers too. I have no designs on a Tesla. Far too rich for my wallet I'm afraid.


Respect... I kindly take back whatever offended you. :D


not offended one bit.


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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:17 am

Zythryn wrote:
Jedlacks wrote:...

Define "hold their value" You can get a three year old used Tesla for 50% off from the factory. Do a search for Tesla CPO and their site pops up.

...Their batteries have an 8 year warranty 125,000 mile warranty. if you extrapolate the Leaf's battery, you will see that they are inline.

....


Used Tesla's bring an equal or higher price as similarly priced luxury ICE vehicles. Considering the $7500 headwind due to the rebate, I'd say they are holding their value quite well.

You are incorrect on the warrantee terms.
All Tesla's currently offer 8 year, unlimited mileage warranties on the battery and drive train.


$48,000 for a 44k miler 2013 Model S 85 with the "remaining battery and drive warranty and a four year, 50,000 miles pre-owned limited warranty with 24 hour roadside assistance". Taken directly from their website for all the world to see. They have lost half their value, which is in line with almost all other cars

"The Battery, like all lithium-ion batteries, will experience gradual energy or power loss with time and use. Loss of Battery energy or power over time or due to or resulting from Battery usage, is NOT covered under this Battery Limited Warranty. See your owner documentation for important information on how to maximize the life and capacity of the Battery." Page 3 of the Models S warranty handbook.

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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:26 am

OK to clarify. Upgrades, as in software and they seem to take more than a passing interest in ownership issues. I still love my Leaf even if their dealer network is not interested in them. Tesla owners I've met rave about it, as they should, my house cost about 1 and 1/2 Tesla's so they should be pleased with them. I'm not jealous at all of those who can afford a Tesla. One day I might find one old enough I can afford it.
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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:29 am

Jedlacks wrote:
Zythryn wrote:
Jedlacks wrote:...

Define "hold their value" You can get a three year old used Tesla for 50% off from the factory. Do a search for Tesla CPO and their site pops up.

...Their batteries have an 8 year warranty 125,000 mile warranty. if you extrapolate the Leaf's battery, you will see that they are inline.

....


Used Tesla's bring an equal or higher price as similarly priced luxury ICE vehicles. Considering the $7500 headwind due to the rebate, I'd say they are holding their value quite well.

You are incorrect on the warrantee terms.
All Tesla's currently offer 8 year, unlimited mileage warranties on the battery and drive train.


$48,000 for a 44k miler 2013 Model S 85 with the "remaining battery and drive warranty and a four year, 50,000 miles pre-owned limited warranty with 24 hour roadside assistance". Taken directly from their website for all the world to see. They have lost half their value, which is in line with almost all other cars

"The Battery, like all lithium-ion batteries, will experience gradual energy or power loss with time and use. Loss of Battery energy or power over time or due to or resulting from Battery usage, is NOT covered under this Battery Limited Warranty. See your owner documentation for important information on how to maximize the life and capacity of the Battery." Page 3 of the Models S warranty handbook.

It's the fine print that always gets you! :D :D :D :D


No question they don't cover normal battery degradation.
Where I was trying to correctly you was where you mentioned a 125k mile warrantee. It is unlimited miles

As for resale, sure you can find some equal to what other cars are reselling for. The average is slightly above. Which supports the comment that they hold their value "well".
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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:32 am

DuncanCunningham wrote:OK to clarify. Upgrades, as in software and they seem to take more than a passing interest in ownership issues. I still love my Leaf even if their dealer network is not interested in them. Tesla owners I've met rave about it, as they should, my house cost about 1 and 1/2 Tesla's so they should be pleased with them. I'm not jealous at all of those who can afford a Tesla. One day I might find one old enough I can afford it.


You may want to edit, or ask a mod to edit the title.
It is highly suggestive that you are looking for a battery upgrade program, which Tesla does not offer.
I don't expect any car company will ever do that as a general rule.

As for the software upgrades, yes, those are wonderful, and as an owner, I have loved it. It would take a lot for me to buy any car that didn't offer this in the future.
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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:19 am

Zythryn wrote:You may want to edit, or ask a mod to edit the title.
It is highly suggestive that you are looking for a battery upgrade program, which Tesla does not offer.


I'm not the original poster.. as with most of these threads, I managed to derail it into the path of another train going the other way. My apologies to the OP. choo choo

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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:49 pm

DuncanCunningham wrote:
Zythryn wrote:You may want to edit, or ask a mod to edit the title.
It is highly suggestive that you are looking for a battery upgrade program, which Tesla does not offer.


I'm not the original poster.. as with most of these threads, I managed to derail it into the path of another train going the other way. My apologies to the OP. choo choo

In other news...
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Ah, my apologies.

As for the image, I see you take after the Thomas Edison school of mud slinging ;)
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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:00 pm

I think it's time for the upgrade / mod industry to step in the BEV market

in the ICE world there are lots of aftermarket companies making all kind of upgrade / mods for ICE vehicles so why not exploring the EV market? I see a business in upgrading batteries; taking out the old ones and replace them with new upgraded ones.

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Re: When will Nissan provide battery upgrade program?

Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:39 am

GreenCarReports today reported that Nissan is no longer selling LEAFs with the 24kwh battery. Even the base 2016 LEAF has the 30kwh battery. So presumably they are no longer making the 24kwh battery. Doesn't this imply that anyone purchasing a replacement battery for their 2011-2015 LEAF will get a 30kwh battery?

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