Maui314
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2011 3 bars gone.

Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:21 pm

Looking at buying a 2011 leaf with 29k and 9 bars on a full charge.
How do I calculate how long (time and miles) I have before Nissan will no longer replace the battery under warranty?
Will every Nissan dealer do this, even if they did not sell the car?
Thx

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jhm614
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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:33 pm

The batteries have a 5 year / 60,000 warranty. I think this means the 2011s are no longer eligible for warranty replacement.
2011 Brilliant Silver SL - 101,000 gasoline free miles so far.
4BL: 06/29/13 @ 27 months, 43,520 miles, 42.56 Ahr. New 12 bar battery: 09/09/13
4BLx2:12/31/16 @ 69 months, 99,475 miles, 42.99 Ahr.

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:43 pm

Shoots. Ok, I had heard 8 years. Thx

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:12 pm

Maui314 wrote:Shoots. Ok, I had heard 8 years. Thx

Nope.

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:23 pm

jhm614 wrote:The batteries have a 5 year / 60,000 warranty. I think this means the 2011s are no longer eligible for warranty replacement.

Note the 5 years starts from the date the Leaf was first sold, not the model year, so if the Leaf sat around for quite some time it may still be eligible(if it loses another bar) otherwise the 8 year is for failure, not degradation of the battery.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:11 am

What is definition of failure?

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:50 am

Maui314 wrote:What is definition of failure?


8 capacity bars remaining.
As was mentioned, get proof of the original "sell" date as the 5yr/60k mile capacity warranty is transferable (e.g. follows the car).
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers (front)
Tor's low-power heater mod
2013 sun visor
3G modem upgrade
L2 EVSE Upgrade
Battery Pack replaced (Rev E) @51 months and 41k miles

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:01 am

Stanton wrote:
Maui314 wrote:What is definition of failure?


8 capacity bars remaining.
As was mentioned, get proof of the original "sell" date as the 5yr/60k mile capacity warranty is transferable (e.g. follows the car).



Addendum: The warranty text from the booklet:
LITHIUM–ION BATTERY COVERAGE

The Lithium-Ion coverage period is 96 months or
100,000 miles, whichever comes first. This war-
ranty covers any repairs needed to correct defects
in materials or workmanship subject to the exclu-
sions listed under the heading WHAT IS NOT
COVERED. This warranty period is 96 months or
100,000 miles, whichever comes first.


2013 NEW ELECTRIC VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY 7
LITHIUM-ION BATTERY CAPACITY COVERAGE

In addition to the Lithium-Ion Battery Coverage for
defects in materials or workmanship, the Lithium-
Ion battery is also warranted against capacity loss
below nine bars of capacity as shown on the vehi-
cle’s battery capacity level gauge for a period of
60 months or 60,000 miles, whichever comes first.
This warranty covers any repairs needed to return
battery capacity to a level of nine remaining bars
on the vehicle’s battery capacity level gauge. If
possible, the Lithium-Ion battery components will
be repaired or replaced, and the original Lithium-
Ion battery will be returned to the vehicle. If nec-
essary, the Lithium-Ion battery will be replaced
with either a new or remanufactured Lithium-Ion
battery. Any repair or replacement made under this
Lithium-Ion Battery Capacity Coverage may not
return your Lithium-Ion battery to an “as new”
condition with all 12 battery capacity bars, but it
will provide the vehicle with a capacity level of nine
bars or more on the battery capacity level gauge.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:21 pm

Maui314 wrote:
What is definition of failure?



Stanton wrote:
8 capacity bars remaining.



The 8 year warranty is for manufacturing defects only - capacity loss does NOT qualify unless it is very sudden, due to the failure of one or more cells. Dropping to 8 bars over time does not qualify a pack.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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Re: 2011 3 bars gone.

Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:29 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Maui314 wrote:
What is definition of failure?



Stanton wrote:
8 capacity bars remaining.



The 8 year warranty is for manufacturing defects only - capacity loss does NOT qualify unless it is very sudden, due to the failure of one or more cells. Dropping to 8 bars over time does not qualify a pack.


It does within the 5 yr/60k mile time frame...which was the question that was asked/answered.
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers (front)
Tor's low-power heater mod
2013 sun visor
3G modem upgrade
L2 EVSE Upgrade
Battery Pack replaced (Rev E) @51 months and 41k miles

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