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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:03 pm

jjeff wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:
SurfHawk wrote:I got burned a couple times when charging in the wild by forgetting to over-ride the charge timer and charge percent from 80% to 100%. So I turned both off a few months ago and my mental state is much happier. I was leaving notes for myself on if my timer was on and if I was 80% or 100%, and was always double checking. Plus I dreaded explaining to my wife how to adjust these details should she need to charge. Now if I find a free charger in the wild I just plug in and it fills up to 100%, and if I charge at home I can always adjust the charge time and percent with my JuiceBox.


There is a timer override button on the dash for just that purpose. Just press that until the center blue light goes on (on the dash). Then it doesn't matter what you have set for the timer (overnight charge / 80% / etc). The car will immediately charge to 100%. Easy.

Yes on your '11 and '12 but not '13 and '14 where the 80% option is separate from the charge timer and just pushing the timer-override button won't change a 80% setting to 100%, you need to actually change the separate setting to 100% to get 100% charging :)


Really? Never knew that.
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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:48 am

Yeah the timer over-ride button was easy enough to remember, but as jjeff said for the 2013 you have to have the car on and navigate through the clunky menu (on an S model) to change from 80 to 100. Half the time I'd have the car turned off and over-ride button hit when I'd remember about the 80% setting, so I'd need to turn the car back on, navigate through, turn off again, hit over-ride again. It's like changing the time on your clock radio every time you want to charge in the wild.
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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:28 pm

SurfHawk wrote:Yeah the timer over-ride button was easy enough to remember, but as jjeff said for the 2013 you have to have the car on and navigate through the clunky menu (on an S model) to change from 80 to 100. Half the time I'd have the car turned off and over-ride button hit when I'd remember about the 80% setting, so I'd need to turn the car back on, navigate through, turn off again, hit over-ride again. It's like changing the time on your clock radio every time you want to charge in the wild.

Because of that and also because I'm finding myself charging more and more in the wild for free, I just leave mine set to 100% most of the time and if for some reason I charge at home and want to stop at less than 100% I just remember to unplug the car at the approximate time it will be at the charge I want. I agree, it's a PIA to constantly have to change the 80/100% option, of course we shouldn't complain, after '15 they totally took away the 80% option, which I wouldn't like either.
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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:03 pm

jjeff wrote:..after '15 they totally took away the 80% option, which I wouldn't like either.


Actually for US/Canadian cars that option went away for MY 2014. In other countries where the Leaf is sold the option still exists.
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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:44 pm

SurfHawk wrote:Yeah the timer over-ride button was easy enough to remember, but as jjeff said for the 2013 you have to have the car on and navigate through the clunky menu (on an S model) to change from 80 to 100. Half the time I'd have the car turned off and over-ride button hit when I'd remember about the 80% setting, so I'd need to turn the car back on, navigate through, turn off again, hit over-ride again. It's like changing the time on your clock radio every time you want to charge in the wild.


It's crazy to me that something so easy on a '11/'12 Leaf became so difficult on a '13+ Leaf. I guess it's just an unintended consequence of removing the 80% limit from the timer. Some engineer(s) at Nissan didn't think that one through all the way.
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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:19 am

No, the 13/14 cars have BOTH methods of choosing 80%. If you do it in settings, the override button doesn't affect it, but if you set a charge % using the timer, the override button makes it use the value from the settings instead of the timer.

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Re: Using Charge Timer is it good practice

Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:54 am

Staque wrote:No, the 13/14 cars have BOTH methods of choosing 80%. If you do it in settings, the override button doesn't affect it, but if you set a charge % using the timer, the override button makes it use the value from the settings instead of the timer.

The "S" models are probably different than the SV/SL models then. On my '13S the only way to have charging stop at 80% is to enable the one and only 80% option in the cumbersome menu, the charging timer just has a stop or departure time.
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