ironmanco
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2016 Leaf SOH questions

Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:02 pm

We bought our 2016 leaf new and have just over 34k on it in 18 months. We're about 50/50 with fast charging and L2 because, as you can see by the mileage, we sometimes need to turn it around in less time than L2 affords us.

Other stats for reference (leafspy)

SOH=85%
QC=686
L1/L2=672
Hx=78.64
AHr=67.66

Based on what I've read I'm pretty close to losing a bar. Obviously, one of the things I could do is change my charging habits but that may be difficult based on my typical use of the vehicle.

Any other ideas?
2016 Nissan Leaf SL Deep Blue Pearl
Mfg 12/15 Del 1/16 30 Oct 2017 34172 mi Ahr 67.69 SOH 85% Hx 78.55%
Charging: evseupgrade L2 charging 30A circuit @ 24A shared garage heater circuit (ask me)

jbuntz
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Delivery Date: 17 Dec 2016
Leaf Number: 303765
Location: New Braunfels, TX

Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:46 pm

What is the build date from drivers side door jam? My first bar dropped closer to 80% SOH
Mfg 11/15 Del 12/16 TX 2016 SL 30kWh,
Date Bar MI GID Ahr SOH
05/17 12 05175 324 70.75 89
08/17 11 09245 282 61.68 77
10/17 10 12000 260 57.22 71
01/18 09 15329 244 53.72 68
06/20 08 21716 230 50.41 63
06/27 11 22047 296 66.01 83 Aftr Updt

ironmanco
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Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Mfg 12/15 Del 1/16 CO 2016 SL 30kWh,
30 Oct 2017 34172 mi Ahr 67.69 SOH 85% Hx 78.55%
2016 Nissan Leaf SL Deep Blue Pearl
Mfg 12/15 Del 1/16 30 Oct 2017 34172 mi Ahr 67.69 SOH 85% Hx 78.55%
Charging: evseupgrade L2 charging 30A circuit @ 24A shared garage heater circuit (ask me)

ironmanco
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Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:07 pm

Anyone with any feedback? Is my battery right where I should expect it or should I expect my SOH to be higher?
2016 Nissan Leaf SL Deep Blue Pearl
Mfg 12/15 Del 1/16 30 Oct 2017 34172 mi Ahr 67.69 SOH 85% Hx 78.55%
Charging: evseupgrade L2 charging 30A circuit @ 24A shared garage heater circuit (ask me)

LeftieBiker
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Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:35 pm

Those 2016 30kwh packs are showing an alarming rate of degradation. It may be the early builds like yours in particular, or it may be all of them. To answer your question, yours seems to be on the worse end of typical, with "typical" in this case not being at all good. The good news is that you should eventually be eligible for a free replacement pack.
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rcm4453
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Leaf Number: 304133
Location: Wayzata, MN

Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:22 pm

ironmanco wrote:Anyone with any feedback? Is my battery right where I should expect it or should I expect my SOH to be higher?



Well you will be losing your first bar at around 80% SOH, so no not too good. A little better than me as I recently lost my first bar at 19k miles on my 2016 Leaf.

ironmanco
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Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:28 pm

Anyone out there with a 2016 leaf that has lost enough bars to start to consider battery replacement? I heard that 3 bars is the starting point for that? I'm also wondering if they look back and say....hey you did too much L3 charging or something like that.

If the 1st bar doesn't go until 80% and I'm at 85% with 34k. I would imagine that I'll be way beyond 40k before I get to that point. Or is the decay in SOH not linear?
2016 Nissan Leaf SL Deep Blue Pearl
Mfg 12/15 Del 1/16 30 Oct 2017 34172 mi Ahr 67.69 SOH 85% Hx 78.55%
Charging: evseupgrade L2 charging 30A circuit @ 24A shared garage heater circuit (ask me)

Leafchacho
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Location: Utah

Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:53 pm

ironmanco wrote:Anyone out there with a 2016 leaf that has lost enough bars to start to consider battery replacement? I heard that 3 bars is the starting point for that? I'm also wondering if they look back and say....hey you did too much L3 charging or something like that.

If the 1st bar doesn't go until 80% and I'm at 85% with 34k. I would imagine that I'll be way beyond 40k before I get to that point. Or is the decay in SOH not linear?



http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=23606&p=509867#p509867

Above is a link to something I just posted in the 30 kwh battery thread.

ironmanco
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Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:04 pm

Thanks for the reference - that does help. I'm not sure if it's buried in the thread but let's assume I continue with my charging profile (50/50 L2/L3) and use profile and my degradation is linear. That would mean that since I'm at 85% at 34k....this would be my path:

34,000 85% CURRENT
45,333 80% BAR 1
61,200 73% BAR 2
77,067 66% BAR 3
90,667 60% BAR 4
2016 Nissan Leaf SL Deep Blue Pearl
Mfg 12/15 Del 1/16 30 Oct 2017 34172 mi Ahr 67.69 SOH 85% Hx 78.55%
Charging: evseupgrade L2 charging 30A circuit @ 24A shared garage heater circuit (ask me)

waikalua
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Delivery Date: 15 Jun 2016
Leaf Number: 309272
Location: Oahu

Re: 2016 Leaf SOH questions

Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:31 am

My 2016 SV has lost two capacity bars at 15,000 miles. The first one went at around 11 or 12k.

It's my third Leaf so I'm not doing any abusive charging, actually only charged this one with Level 3 maybe once or twice ever.

Anybody seen this rapid of a degrade? How did it work out?

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