LeftieBiker
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:28 pm

I am fairly certain that your car will not drop to 8 capacity bars by the end of 2019, but you should have at least 60 miles of usable range (highway driving with normal A/C use) in the summer and 50 miles (with reasonable heating) during winter.


That estimate is a bit high. I'm guessing that most of your driving is on flat terrain? I still have 12 bars showing, and have barely 50 miles of Winter range right now. In frigid weather it's more like 38-40 miles, again with 12 bars and about 86% SOH.
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:59 am

I very much doubt that selling the car now would be a wise money move, and given your 37 mile work commute it should fulfill your requirements for many years to come. That said, DO NOT stuff the car into a hot, closed garage in the summer. That is a recipe for accelerated degradation. From another thread, I know you have given some thought to charging timing and SoC. The only other advice is to not park on asphalt that is in the sun.

It sounds like you made out like a bandit with your diesel. In your shoes I would sell it back to VW and pocket the cash. Let the cash sit in an investment, save the monthly insurance, and rent a car as needed. In 5-10 years when the LEAF no longer fills the majority of your duties, buy a nicer EV with your pile of cash.

Last piece of advice: Stop checking your car with LeafSpy. It is only going to give you heartburn.
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:02 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
I am fairly certain that your car will not drop to 8 capacity bars by the end of 2019, but you should have at least 60 miles of usable range (highway driving with normal A/C use) in the summer and 50 miles (with reasonable heating) during winter.


That estimate is a bit high. I'm guessing that most of your driving is on flat terrain? I still have 12 bars showing, and have barely 50 miles of Winter range right now. In frigid weather it's more like 38-40 miles, again with 12 bars and about 86% SOH.

My car has ~ 88% capacity and range is about 70-80 miles per charge in the winter. The difference is probably how we drive and use heat.
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:09 pm

@SageBrush It's pretty remarkable that you get that kind of range in winter, but I'm guessing altitude, and therefore thinner air, is making a big difference for you in Colorado.

Air resistance has a linear relationship to air density, and Denver air density is about 85% of the air density at sea level, all other things being equal.

Out on the wet coast, at sea level, I get more like 55-65 miles range, with winter tires on, and my SOH is still low 90s. Like you, I use the heater sparingly, but we get a LOT of rain and wet roads drop my LEAF's efficiency a lot.
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:38 pm

alozzy wrote:Like you, I use the heater sparingly, but we get a LOT of rain and wet roads drop my LEAF's efficiency a lot.

Wet roads sap up a *lot* of energy, no doubt about it.

Our winter has been a a few degrees warmer than usual, but remarkably dry. Reservoirs are at 33% of normal and the mountain snow pack is way down.
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:57 pm

Lucky you, I wish I got that kind of range in winter! It;s nice having drinking water though ;)
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:02 am

alozzy wrote:Lucky you, I wish I got that kind of range in winter! It;s nice having drinking water though ;)

I'm actually a little surprised to read of big winter vs summer differences in your driving. I remember BC as wet in the summer too :mrgreen:
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:35 am

Oh please, we get started least 3 weeks of summer!
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Re: My SOH = 84% Yet I show 12 Bars? Sad Face :-(

Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:50 pm

SageBrush wrote:
alozzy wrote:Like you, I use the heater sparingly, but we get a LOT of rain and wet roads drop my LEAF's efficiency a lot.

Wet roads sap up a *lot* of energy, no doubt about it.

Our winter has been a a few degrees warmer than usual, but remarkably dry. Reservoirs are at 33% of normal and the mountain snow pack is way down.

We have all of your snow. It's here in Utah waiting to melt into the Salt Lake.
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