kjpowers
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Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:05 am

So I am looking to get a new battery in my 2012 leaf with 73k miles on it. I was told by Nissan this would be around 8k. I still owe 4k on the car and Nissan said they would give me around 2k for it if I was to trade it in. So I’m looking at getting a new car. I love my leaf but I’m also in the notion that I can get a 2015 leaf with 20k miles and full bars for 10k. So I’m at a hard place and just want some advice from the community.

1. Lease a fiat 500e for ~109 @36 months
2. Buy a '15 for 10K+2k(my old loan)
3. New battery for 4K +8k = 12k

I am leaning to the new battery because its a new battery, I assume, it will be a better battery then the '15 (most 15's on the market I see in my area have only one bar loss at 60k )


Current commute is 26mile round trip with an 8 mile 700ft climb
Current GOM is 40mi
Current '12 actual mileage ~22 - 24mi (3.2kwh/mi)

I have to keep my payments low as I have a new baby on the way and very little funds. I will have 2 kids and that is why I am not moving more towards the lease as it is a small car.

I was looking at an ICE but at the 10k price I worry about maintaining an ICE and in the long run being worse off than a leaf.

Just looking for advice, feeling overwhelmed and stressed. Hope you all can help?

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Stanton
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:20 am

More info would be helpful.
1) Have you lost 4 bars (which leads to the question)
2) Have you submitted a (partial) warranty claim to Nissan

Location would also be helpful. If you are under as much financial stress as you imply...maybe a different approach is in order (including a $1000 "beater")?
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
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2013 sun visor
3G modem upgrade
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Battery Pack replaced (Rev E) @51 months and 41k miles

kjpowers
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:02 am

Stanton wrote:More info would be helpful.
1) Have you lost 4 bars (which leads to the question)
2) Have you submitted a (partial) warranty claim to Nissan

Location would also be helpful. If you are under as much financial stress as you imply...maybe a different approach is in order (including a $1000 "beater")?


1) Yes Well beyond I am at 73k miles and i have lost 6 bars
2) they told me no because I am to far from it.

I live in Sothern CA

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RegGuheert
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:29 am

Note that the new battery comes with a full warranty. Check with Nissan for the exact details. That might influence your decision.
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
10K mi. on 041413; 20K mi. (55.7Ah) on 080714; 30K mi. (52.0Ah) on 123015; 40K mi. (49.8Ah) on 020817; 50K mi. (47.2Ah) on 120717; 60K mi. (43.66Ah) on 091918.
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Stanton
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:24 pm

kjpowers wrote:
Stanton wrote:More info would be helpful.
1) Have you lost 4 bars (which leads to the question)
2) Have you submitted a (partial) warranty claim to Nissan

Location would also be helpful. If you are under as much financial stress as you imply...maybe a different approach is in order (including a $1000 "beater")?


1) Yes Well beyond I am at 73k miles and i have lost 6 bars
2) they told me no because I am to far from it.

I live in Sothern CA


There's a disconnect somewhere.
If you are down 6 bars about 1 year beyond the 5 year warranty limit (2012-2017), then you should have been down 4 bars long before the 5 year limit.
Were you unaware of the warranty replacement policy? I would imagine Nissan would still give you some sort of partial coverage down that many bars at this point.
Last edited by Stanton on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers (front)
Tor's low-power heater mod
2013 sun visor
3G modem upgrade
L2 EVSE Upgrade
Battery Pack replaced (Rev E) @51 months and 41k miles

kjpowers
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:28 pm

4th bar lost at 63k. I did not try to get anything because I read so many people saying nissan just told them to pownd ground.

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Stanton
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:42 pm

kjpowers wrote:4th bar lost at 63k. I did not try to get anything because I read so many people saying nissan just told them to pownd ground.


All I know is that 100% of the people who didn't ask...didn't get anything. Just sayin'
2011 Blue Ocean SV w/floor mats & window tint
12v LiFePO4 battery & FIAMM 74100 horns
Wet Okole seat covers (front)
Tor's low-power heater mod
2013 sun visor
3G modem upgrade
L2 EVSE Upgrade
Battery Pack replaced (Rev E) @51 months and 41k miles

goldbrick
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:49 pm

Is the rest of the car in good shape? Personally, I would rather have a new, warrantied battery in a car whose history I know (assuming it is good) rather than roll the dice on a used car with an unknown history.

With 2 young kids I would steer clear of a beater unless you have a dear friend who likes working on your car.

Edit to add: Used Leaf prices seem to have gone up lately and finding a 2015 with 20k miles for $10k may not be as easy as it once was. Also, I doubt the replacement battery will be better than the 2015 battery but a 2015 battery should be much better than the one that came with your 2012.

LeafyTexan
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Re: Replace battery or buy Used

Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:36 am

I am in the exact same position as you (minus the kids). I wish I had an answer for you, but I'm not even sure what I'm going to do yet. I would prefer to replace the battery but the cost is prohibitive. I'm starting with the dealership, then I'll move up to Nissan. Asking about any kind of discount or prorated price.

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