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Report: Nissan Leaf battery pack costs only £6,000 ($9,000)

Wed May 05, 2010 7:20 am

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/05/05/report-nissan-leaf-battery-pack-costs-only-6-000-9-000-or/

no wonder nissan is able to make a profit at 32k

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Re: LEAF battery price...

Wed May 05, 2010 7:29 am

That sure would be great news. I can't find the original Times of London story, but it would be great if true. Most interesting would be HOW they managed to do it.
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Re: LEAF battery price...

Wed May 05, 2010 7:39 am

I know....the crap papers talking about $1000 per kWh are just that...crap. But still that $375 is the same as the best price you can find for cheap, horrid Chinese batteries....Most prices for solid batteries are between 500 and 800 kWh...and it is hard to find those 500 priced batteries. So Nissan has worked a bit of magic here (it helps they own most of the battery supplier. I think most car makers will end up either joining, buying or making their own battery company).

I really hope this puts a fire under the other battery makers butts to cut their prices too....A price war on modern batteries would be a good thing.

Nissan making a profit on the LEAF from day one would be a good thing.

Yeah :)

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Re: LEAF battery price...

Wed May 05, 2010 7:57 am

Here was the original story, from APril 4th:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/b ... 086781.ece
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Re: LEAF battery price...

Wed May 05, 2010 11:14 am

Well, they *are* tooling to produce them in volumes of 200k packs/year in TN alone! ;) The raw materials on these cells are cheap; it's capital and labor that's the killer, and mass production that's the key.

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Re: LEAF battery price...

Wed May 05, 2010 11:18 am

Good to have you back Karen.

I wondered about this. The raw materials did not seem to be that big a deal. I wondered about the complexity of the manufacturing process and the yields. If they have the yield curve down, then the volume is sure going to be the big help you cite. This would be a great.
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Re: LEAF battery price...

Wed May 05, 2010 12:40 pm

Gavin wrote:http://green.autoblog.com/2010/05/05/report-nissan-leaf-battery-pack-costs-only-6-000-9-000-or/

no wonder nissan is able to make a profit at 32k

Gavin


LOL. I've been talking about this since the day Times published it. Anyway good to see autoblog picking it up.
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Nissan Leaf EV to Have Ultra-Cheap Battery Pack

Wed May 05, 2010 1:36 pm

Over 8,200 people have made online reservations in the past month for the upcoming Nissan Leaf EV, and for good reason. The $33,000 vehicle, set to be released later this year, is the first affordable all-electric vehicle from a major auto manufacturer. It's an early adopter's dream. Now Nissan has revealed the secret behind the Leaf's reasonable price: an ultra-cheap battery pack.

While most lithium-ion batteries cost $1000 to $1,200 per kWh, the Leaf's 24 kWh battery pack costs just $9,000 to produce, or $375 per kWh, according to a report in the Times of London. In comparison, the Chevy Volt battery pack reportedly costs $600 per kWh, and even the US Advanced Battery Consortium only has a goal of producing batteries at $400 per kWh by mid-decade.

So what gives? If the report is correct, Nissan could revolutionize the EV battery industry--assuming it will share its technology with other automakers. We still have our doubts, though, that this too-good-to-be-true pricing scheme is real. Nissan hasn't yet responded to our request for comment.


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Re: Nissan Leaf EV to Have Ultra-Cheap Battery Pack

Wed May 05, 2010 1:39 pm

Yes, I am waiting to see if Nissan responds to this news or not. I am not sure what the advantage would be to responding, so they are likely to remain silent.
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Re: Nissan Leaf EV to Have Ultra-Cheap Battery Pack

Wed May 05, 2010 1:41 pm

Further industry reporting on this article:

http://gas2.org/2010/05/05/report-nissa ... o-produce/
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