Pipcecil
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Is it possible to add EPA mpg for the PHEVs? It would be nice to compare their standard gas MPG since looking at just their EV range is only have the picture.
Will add the mpg.Pipcecil said:Is it possible to add EPA mpg for the PHEVs? It would be nice to compare their standard gas MPG since looking at just their EV range is only have the picture.
evnow said:Here is the table comparing dimensions and some other specs of all EVs/PHEVs in the US market (or that will be). I'll add more info as they are released.
Last updated : 2/13/12
80% of the 16kWhThe Mitsubishi i is the most affordable electric vehicle in America. And with a federal tax incentive it's even more affordable.
ES TRIM
$29,125 MSRP
- $7500 federal tax credit
= $21,625 after tax credit
SE TRIM
$31,125 MSRP
- $7500 federal tax credit
= $23,625 after tax credit
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price. Excludes destination/handling, tax, title, license etc. MSRP is as of 9/1/11 and is subject to change. Retailer price, terms and vehicle availability may vary. See your Mitsubishi retailer for details. Destination/handling charges for Mitsubishi i $850; Alaska/Hawaii $975. Tax savings subject to rules and availability. Taxpayer must incur federal tax liability to receive full benefit. Consult your tax professional. Actual prices set by retailer.
OK. There are other things to correct for example 4 passengers vs 5.evnow said:My numbers include destination ...
I'll correct the 5 to 4. The problem with "useable" is that they are not published. I try to guess numbers that are not *yet* published, but will be by the time the car is for sale.scottf200 said:There are other things to correct for example 4 passengers vs 5.
Another row on that chart would be interesting showing the approximate usage of the batter.
Mit i would be 12.8 kWh (80%)
Volt would be 10.4 kWh (65%)
LEAF would be 21 kWh (87%)
etc.
Give everyone an idea of bookend SOC that could be expanded into or what the manuf considers to be a good usages
C&D article in the March issue:evnow said:I'll correct the 5 to 4. The problem with "useable" is that they are not published. I try to guess numbers that are not *yet* published, but will be by the time the car is for sale.scottf200 said:There are other things to correct for example 4 passengers vs 5.
Another row on that chart would be interesting showing the approximate usage of the batter.
Mit i would be 12.8 kWh (80%)
Volt would be 10.4 kWh (65%)
LEAF would be 21 kWh (87%)
etc.
Give everyone an idea of bookend SOC that could be expanded into or what the manuf considers to be a good usages
$37,250 + $895 Dest. Charge = $38,145. Only the 31 kWh battery is currently offered, and the EPA range is 88 miles.Herm said:I believe the Coda has been lowered to $37k now, for the 31kWh battery version, the EPA range ratings have been released also.
As with all electric vehicles, the key to range is battery capacity. Coda’s 31-kilowatt-hour battery surpasses the Leaf, which has 24-kilowatt-hour pack, and the Focus Electric’s 23 kilowatt-hour pack. (Coda says it will offer a 36 kilowatt-hour battery this year.) Coda also uses an active thermal management system to preserve range in cold and hot weather; it uses air to do the work of regulating temperature, rather than liquid like the Focus Electric.
While I'm near-immune to looks when it comes to car purchases (I fall in that niche of the public for whom BEV range is primary), changing just the grill isn't going to help much. The car will remain bland and unnoticeable with its current body; that's just the way it is.scottf200 said:I think you should add hot|cold TMS to the chart.
This article suggestion Coda is going to offer a 36 kWh battery this year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/automobiles/autoreviews/a-bare-bones-electric-car-that-goes-the-extra-mile.html?_r=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
As with all electric vehicles, the key to range is battery capacity. Coda’s 31-kilowatt-hour battery surpasses the Leaf, which has 24-kilowatt-hour pack, and the Focus Electric’s 23 kilowatt-hour pack. (Coda says it will offer a 36 kilowatt-hour battery this year.) Coda also uses an active thermal management system to preserve range in cold and hot weather; it uses air to do the work of regulating temperature, rather than liquid like the Focus Electric.
They need to change the grille -- goodness that ruins the looks of this car IMHO.
GRA said:SNIP
While I'm near-immune to looks when it comes to car purchases (I fall in that niche of the public for whom BEV range is primary), changing just the grill isn't going to help much. The car will remain bland and unnoticeable with its current body; that's just the way it is.
Volt battery is now 16.5 kWh now as well.DrInnovation said:On the main table.. the total HP for Karma is 403 HP. other useful karma specs at http://media.fiskerautomotive.com/media/articles/doc/393_1_1.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You might want to update the rest of the Model S specs. Some of those numbers currently in your chart are not correct (weight, headroom, width, etc). For example, it now weighs 4647 lbs and is 86" wide with mirrors. It's a beast!evnow said:Updated with the release of Model S (EPA range & delivery date).
An interesting side issue.scottf200 said:Volt battery is now 16.5 kWh now as well.
I'd only use the latest model info.Rusty said:The MY '13 Volt is 16.5 kWh, but prior Volts are still 16 kWh. Should the chart only reflect the latest model, or should it include model year differentiations?
evnow said:I'd only use the latest model info.Rusty said:The MY '13 Volt is 16.5 kWh, but prior Volts are still 16 kWh. Should the chart only reflect the latest model, or should it include model year differentiations?
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