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Lot of news on this today. L2, HV (hold), HV Charge, Electric|Serial|Parallel modes, > 62 MPH before ICE kicks in (duh!)

https://www.google.com/search?q=honda+accord+plug+in+specs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A couple of the better reports
http://insideevs.com/2014-honda-accord-plug-in-hybrid-specs-10-15-miles-of-range-100-mpge-hov-eligible/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1078950_2014-honda-accord-hybrid-plug-in-hybrid-photos-details" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
The Honda According coming out Jan 2013 is missing from this chart.

2014-honda-accord-plug-in-hybrid-first-drive-review
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/03/2014-honda-accord-plug-in-hybrid-first-drive-review/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Noteably as well...
...the EPA has decided that the Accord PHEV qualifies as an enhanced AT-PZEV, which means HOV lane access in California if you get a Green Clean Air Vehicle Sticker.
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I've not seen any Accord specs. It is not mentioned in Honda's website ...

http://automobiles.honda.com/alternative-fuel-vehicles/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
evnow said:
I've not seen any Accord specs. It is not mentioned in Honda's website ...
http://automobiles.honda.com/alternative-fuel-vehicles/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is 1 of 4 options. Same specs/body except for the powertrain components and probably weight.

Honda site info (vs articles):

All-New 2014 Honda Accord Plug-In Hybrid Sedan Melds Power, Luxury and Efficiency with Electric-Only Driving Mode
9/5/2012 9:04:00 AM
http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=6824-en" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 2014 Accord Plug-in Hybrid Sedan features one of four efficient new powertrains for the all-new Accord. The Accord Plug-in Hybrid will also serve as the basis for a conventional hybrid version of the Accord Sedan, which will join the Honda Accord lineup in the summer of 2013.

The 2014 Accord Plug-in Hybrid is powered by Honda's first two-motor hybrid system, and uses a new Earth DreamsTM 2.0-liter i-VTEC 4-cylinder engine producing 137 horsepower, teamed with a powerful 124-kilowatt (kW) electric motor. Electric driving is supported by a 6.7 kilowatt-hour (kWh) lithium-ion (Li-Ion) battery, and total system output is 196 horsepower.

2013 specs: http://automobiles.honda.com/accord-sedan/specifications.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
How about updating the chart with the Spark EV?

http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Nov/electrification/1115_spark-ev.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spark EV’s driving force is an oil-cooled, permanent magnet motor that produces at least 100 kW (130 hp) and instantaneous torque of about 400 lb.-ft. with the coaxial drive unit, resulting in 0-60 mph acceleration in less than eight seconds.

Not only is Spark EV quick for its segment, its industry-first SAE combo charger will allow DC Fast Charging of up to 80 percent of battery capacity in approximately 20 minutes. That capability, available shortly after market launch, also will provide EV range among the best in the segment.

“When our team set out to develop the propulsion system for Spark EV, we knew we had to provide surprising fun-to-drive acceleration with maximum efficiency,” said Spark EV Chief Engineer Chuck Russell.

“What we think customers will enjoy most is how fun Spark EV is to drive; it’s seamless and power is available at every stage of the drive,” Russell said. “This will help us to provide an exciting option for those customers who are looking for an EV that’s as much fun to drive as it is environmentally responsible.”

Spark EV’s more than 20 kWh lithium-ion battery pack will carry on Chevrolet’s tradition of industry-leading warranty protection of eight years /100,000 miles, and is capable of handling multiple DC Fast Charges daily. Charging can also be completed in less than seven hours using a dedicated 240V charge. A 120V charge cord set is standard. Charging can be managed and monitored remotely using the Spark EV’s smart phone application, provided by OnStar.

“Spark EV’s battery has undergone more than 200,000 hours of testing in our global battery systems labs,” said Larry Nitz, executive director of GM’s global electrification engineering team. “This testing paved the way to allow our customers to do multiple DC Fast Charges daily to help alleviate range anxiety and improve convenience.”

The Spark EV team was able to leverage expertise gained on the groundbreaking Chevrolet Volt program and uses many of the same components and systems. More than 75 percent of the propulsion system components are from the Volt and GM’s hybrid truck programs.

Spark EV’s motor and drive unit will be manufactured beginning in early 2013 at GM’s transmission plant in White Marsh, Md., near Baltimore. It is the first time a U.S. auto manufacturer has built both a complete electric motor and drive unit for a modern electric vehicle in the United States.
 
evnow - any chance we could talk you into moving this to a Google Drive spreadsheet? Even if you make it read-only to everyone, at least we could download a copy of the sheet (to be able to hide columns, change column sizes, etc.) to make it more useful to us.
 
EVNow,
Did you decide to stop maintaining this chart? If so how about crowd sharing it? It's pretty cool.

Fiat 500e Rated at 87 Miles of Electric Range
http://insideevs.com/fiat-500e-rated-at-87-miles-of-electric-range/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
I'm actually maintaining the sheet. I'll post a revision soon.

One thing to figure out is what to do with all the compliance EVs. Available only in CA (or just a couple of states). If I add them, I'll split the table between EVs and PHEVs, as it would become too wide otherwise.

I can also share the spreadsheet. I've not had good experience with Google drive (editing spreadsheets) - it is too clunky. But we could maintain a separate crowd sourced spreadsheet, if someone wants to own that, and link it from the first post.
 
I've updated the specs with Smart ED & Accord Plug-In. Also some other updates, like new Leaf & Model S prices.
 
Table/spreadsheet needs to be updated.

MSRP $19,185 ($26,685 before $7.5K) for the table.
I subtracted out the $810 from the MSRP listed below because it states: "includes $810 destination freight charge"

Spark-EV Charging Out of Chevy Showrooms for $19,995
Press release: http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2013/May/0523-spark-ev-pricing.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
DETROIT. – Chevrolet announced today a low mileage lease on the new 2014 Spark-EV 1LT for as low as $199 per month* for 36 months, with $999 due at lease signing including security deposit (tax, title, license dealer fees extra), making the vehicle one of the most affordable EVs on the market.
Spark-EV’s Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price starts at $27,495 [LEAF S $28,800] – as low as $19,995 net of the full federal tax credit which ranges from $0 to $7,500 – and includes $810 destination freight charge. Depending on their tax situation, California Spark-EV owners may also qualify for other state and local tax credits and incentives ranging from $0 to $2,500, potentially reducing the price to $17,495. Spark-EV owners in California are also eligible for High-Occupancy Vehicle, or carpool lane, access. <snip>
7.[9]** seconds (or less per articles) that is ~second faster than Volt and LEAF !! (400 lb-ft actual motor shaft torque per - http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=288400#p288400" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

[** I typed this initially from memory at 7.6 but it is 7.9 or less. See this quote:
Chuck Russell, vehicle chief engineer for the Spark-EV and the Chevy Volt, went one better, telling Edmunds: “We’ve said ‘under 8 seconds’ zero to 60 for the Spark-EV — and it won’t be 7.9.”
via article: General Motors Begins First U.S. Production of Electric Motors for 2014 Spark-EV
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/general-motors-begins-first-us-production-of-electric-motors-for-2014-spark-ev.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ]
 
I don't have any compliance EVs yet (ActiveE, Rav4, Fit, Spark, Fiat 500).

If someone can help me out with these, it will be great (the spreadsheet is in the first post).
 
evnow said:
I don't have any compliance EVs yet (ActiveE, Rav4, Fit, Spark, Fiat 500).

If someone can help me out with these, it will be great (the spreadsheet is in the first post).

Here are the technical specs for the ActiveE: http://altcarexpo.com/vehicles/ActiveE_TechSpecs.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also,

The EPA rating is 94mpc.

Seating 4
Headroom (Front) 37.9
Headroom (Back) 37.1
Legroom (Front) 41.4
Legroom (Back) 32.0
Shoulder Room (Front) 54.0
Shoulder Room (Back) 53.4

I think that gives you all you need.
 
evnow said:
I've updated the specs with Smart ED & Accord Plug-In. Also some other updates, like new Leaf & Model S prices.

I think you need to add an i3 REx in the PHEV column also. The weight, price & EPA EV range will be different. You have the engine power listed in the column now, but if it has the REx engine, then the weight you have is wrong. Maybe nitpicking, but the REx really almost makes it a different car don't you think?
 
TomMoloughney said:
evnow said:
I've updated the specs with Smart ED & Accord Plug-In. Also some other updates, like new Leaf & Model S prices.

I think you need to add an i3 REx in the PHEV column also. The weight, price & EPA EV range will be different. You have the engine power listed in the column now, but if it has the REx engine, then the weight you have is wrong. Maybe nitpicking, but the REx really almost makes it a different car don't you think?

I agree with Tom. The i3 with/without the REx really are two different cars when you get to this level of specs.
 
The chart still shows the Tesla S's weight as low as 3,825 lbs.

With the cancellation of the 40 kWh Tesla S battery pack, are any S models available that weigh significantly less than the widely reported ~4,650 lbs?

As per Tesla's specs for the 60 kWh model:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/specs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I thought the weight of the 60 kWh battery back was reported to be nearly the same as the 85 kWh pack.

Anyone know the actual weight difference between the two battery packs and the two available S models?
 
I believe the 60 is about 180lbs less than the 85. I think a 200lb weight difference is all that is allowed to avoid separate crash testing, which would explain why the 60 doesn't weigh less than it does.
 
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