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Don't suppose anyone has any inside info on when the 6k rebate is likely to end do they? My Leaf lease is up in Feb and at that price I'd jump to the FFE, but hoping not to have to buy that far in advance, although a few months would be ok.

BTW I am in the lower Midwest, where there is little inventory, less interest and even lower competition among dealers for EVs (there isn't a Ford Electric dealership within 100 miles of my house - I'm going to have to transport one regardless) so suggestions of starting competitions amongst dealers to see who will buy out more months of my lease would just result in them laughing at me.
 
EvansvilleLeaf said:
Don't suppose anyone has any inside info on when the 6k rebate is likely to end do they? My Leaf lease is up in Feb and at that price I'd jump to the FFE, but hoping not to have to buy that far in advance, although a few months would be ok.

BTW I am in the lower Midwest, where there is little inventory, less interest and even lower competition among dealers for EVs (there isn't a Ford Electric dealership within 100 miles of my house - I'm going to have to transport one regardless) so suggestions of starting competitions amongst dealers to see who will buy out more months of my lease would just result in them laughing at me.

sounds like your driving needs are moderate. I would hesitate to buy something that has no dealer support near by. of course, that will eventually change but when is that going to happen? from my trip, some areas are several years away from any real EV penetration.

My thought for you might be to extend your lease a bit and see what is coming for 2016? guessing it will be a mid year release like 2015

http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2014/05/eving-countryside.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
The Focus eV has long been the champ of "nothing new to report", but lookee here, via ievs.com:

Report: Ford Slashes Focus Electric Price By $6,000, Now Starts At $29,995

http://insideevs.com/report-ford-slashes-focus-electric-price-6000-now-starts-29995/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've started to see them more often over the past month or two, from once every 8-10 months to maybe once every week or two, so they are being bought/leased, slowly but steadily.
 
GRA said:
The Focus eV has long been the champ of "nothing new to report", but lookee here, via ievs.com:

Report: Ford Slashes Focus Electric Price By $6,000, Now Starts At $29,995

http://insideevs.com/report-ford-slashes-focus-electric-price-6000-now-starts-29995/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've started to see them more often over the past month or two, from once every 8-10 months to maybe once every week or two, so they are being bought/leased, slowly but steadily.

cutting the price without widening distribution will mean very little. Market Adjustments keeps the price high. limited availability keeps the market adjustment alive
 
my local dealer has 5 ,2014 for sale.the 29k now is complemented with a 4k ford rebate & 0% for 60 mo.With all the government rebates I can walk with a FFE for less then 15k.In the past the x-a plans were not accepted on the FFE,that is also accepted.plus take 5 years to pay for it with NO interest.This is a real good deal IMO.They are getting down right cheap to buy.
 
epic said:
my local dealer has 5 ,2014 for sale.the 29k now is complemented with a 4k ford rebate & 0% for 60 mo.With all the government rebates I can walk with a FFE for less then 15k.In the past the x-a plans were not accepted on the FFE,that is also accepted.plus take 5 years to pay for it with NO interest.This is a real good deal IMO.They are getting down right cheap to buy.

I qualify for A plan but dealer said it's not available for the FFE. What's the A plan price? Can you stack the 4K rebate + 0% for 60mo or 9K lease cash with A plan?
 
kubel said:
epic said:
my local dealer has 5 ,2014 for sale.the 29k now is complemented with a 4k ford rebate & 0% for 60 mo.With all the government rebates I can walk with a FFE for less then 15k.In the past the x-a plans were not accepted on the FFE,that is also accepted.plus take 5 years to pay for it with NO interest.This is a real good deal IMO.They are getting down right cheap to buy.

I qualify for A plan but dealer said it's not available for the FFE. What's the A plan price? Can you stack the 4K rebate + 0% for 60mo or 9K lease cash with A plan?
yes a plan is now available.at least on the 2014 .All rebates are ON and financing with a plan .By the way a-plan only knocked off about $1500. Not the usual 10%
 
epic said:
kubel said:
epic said:
my local dealer has 5 ,2014 for sale.the 29k now is complemented with a 4k ford rebate & 0% for 60 mo.With all the government rebates I can walk with a FFE for less then 15k.In the past the x-a plans were not accepted on the FFE,that is also accepted.plus take 5 years to pay for it with NO interest.This is a real good deal IMO.They are getting down right cheap to buy.

I qualify for A plan but dealer said it's not available for the FFE. What's the A plan price? Can you stack the 4K rebate + 0% for 60mo or 9K lease cash with A plan?
yes a plan is now available.at least on the 2014 .All rebates are ON and financing with a plan .By the way a-plan only knocked off about $1500. Not the usual 10%

I just checked our x-plan pricing here (Vancouver Wa). Base models are ~25000 before the $7.5k rebate (Net $17500). Pretty well equipped compared to the S model Leaf I currently drive. This is with no haggle, and no state sales tax for EV's (normally $2-3k on ICE's). That is less than the residual at the end of my Leaf lease later this year!

:shock:
 
When I bought my FFE in April, the equipment, features and pricing (after incentives) was almost identical to a Leaf SV. The lease amounts for the same lease terms were within a dollar of each other. With the new pricing and incentives on the Focus, it is way less expensive than the SV. If you want a very nice EV that is very comparable to the Leaf SV in range and features, can survive without QC and can tolerate a bit of battery encroachment in the cargo space, the FFE is a steal right now.
 
cwstnsko said:
When I bought my FFE in April, the equipment, features and pricing (after incentives) was almost identical to a Leaf SV. The lease amounts for the same lease terms were within a dollar of each other. With the new pricing and incentives on the Focus, it is way less expensive than the SV. If you want a very nice EV that is very comparable to the Leaf SV in range and features, can survive without QC and can tolerate a bit of battery encroachment in the cargo space, the FFE is a steal right now.

I got quoted close to $600/month for the 24 month lease (no leather), so I can easily get TWO SVs for that price. They only have a couple in the entire state, so it looks like Ford just gave the entire Georgia to Nissan. I wonder why because they would be able to sell their entire production down here if priced right.
 
A $600 a month quote on a Focus Electric is basically the dealer saying screw you, take this and eat it if you want an EV , and here let me show you some other cars I actually have in stock

$600 a month is a joke
 
Exactly - Those were the kinds of prices we were paying on 11/11/11 but not now. Another joker across town got it down to $400 but that's still a joke.
 
epic said:
my local dealer has 5 ,2014 for sale.the 29k now is complemented with a 4k ford rebate & 0% for 60 mo.With all the government rebates I can walk with a FFE for less then 15k.In the past the x-a plans were not accepted on the FFE,that is also accepted.plus take 5 years to pay for it with NO interest.This is a real good deal IMO.They are getting down right cheap to buy.

this will definitely make it very competitive with Leaf, however I checked my local inventory and they have only one car in stock in whole DC area!?
 
kmp647 said:
A $600 a month quote on a Focus Electric is basically the dealer saying screw you, take this and eat it if you want an EV , and here let me show you some other cars I actually have in stock

$600 a month is a joke
Yep, the lease for our FFE with leather is $300/mo with tax. $2k down, 36mo, 12k. And that was in December with higher MSRP.
 
Anyone else hear about the huge discounts on the Focus EV? It appears that they are selling in the $25-26k range now...
 
drees said:
Anyone else hear about the huge discounts on the Focus EV? It appears that they are selling in the $25-26k range now...
Yes, retail price for the last few months has been $29995 - $4000 incentive. Costco pricing will get you lower. The Focus electric also now qualifies for the various Ford employee/friends pricing plans. After tax credits etc, the Focus Electric is quite a bit less than a comparably equipped ICE Focus. Depending on your local incentives, the net price is probably about $17-18k right now. It's not clear if all the incentives will carry over to the 2015 models, and inventory of the 2014s is getting thin in many parts of the country, but I think there are plenty in CA
 
2013 Ford Focus Electric
Advanced Vehicle Testing – Baseline Testing Results


http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013fordfocus.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AVTA test report on a broken-in FFE.

In comparison to the 2011 LEAF test:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2011nissanleaf.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=13265" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Most interesting results, IMO:

~Identical ~22.7 kW use at ~70 mph at ~identical ambient temperatures, but looks like the 2011 LEAF has slightly higher efficiency than the FFE at lower speeds, after you adjust for ambient temps.

The FFE has considerably lower Overall Trip Efficiency, maybe due to the kW draw of its thermal management system?

Are FFE battery pack temperatures normally this high (~ 93F to 100 F) during charging?

2013 LEAF test results, showing both the MY 2013 improvements in driving and Overall Trip Efficiency (~6 kW charger) over the 2011 LEAF, and also the effects of lower ambient temps at constant speed, are here:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013nissanleaf.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18555" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
edatoakrun said:
2013 Ford Focus Electric
Advanced Vehicle Testing – Baseline Testing Results


http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013fordfocus.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AVTA test report on a broken-in FFE.

In comparison to the 2011 LEAF test:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2011nissanleaf.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=13265" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Most interesting results, IMO:

~Identical ~22.7 kW use at ~70 mph at ~identical ambient temperatures, but looks like the 2011 LEAF has slightly higher efficiency than the FFE at lower speeds, after you adjust for ambient temps.

The FFE has considerably lower Overall Trip Efficiency, maybe due to the kW draw of its thermal management system?

Are FFE battery pack temperatures normally this high (~ 93F to 100 F) during charging?

2013 LEAF test results, showing both the MY 2013 improvements in driving and Overall Trip Efficiency (~6 kW charger) over the 2011 LEAF, and also the effects of lower ambient temps at constant speed, are here:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013nissanleaf.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18555" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


interested in more details of testing parameters because their results are significantly below mine. Hard to believe the HUGE range difference between 45 and 60 mph test. something is wrong there
 
DaveinOlyWA said:
...interested in more details of testing parameters because their results are significantly below mine. Hard to believe the HUGE range difference between 45 and 60 mph test. something is wrong there
What details don't you see?

If you are referring to 2013 LEAF results, the battery and ambient temperature variation explains much of the "HUGE range difference between 45 and 60 mph test".

See the footnotes:

..2. During the 45 mph range test, the maximum battery temperature was 23 °C and the average ambient temperature was 21 °C. During the post-test charge, the maximum battery temperature was 25 °C, and the average ambient temperature was 18 °C.
3. During the 60 mph range test, the maximum battery temperature was 18 °C and the average ambient temperature was 14 °C. During the post-test charge, the maximum battery temperature was 27 °C, and the average ambient temperature was 25 °C...

On-topic thread:

http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/fact2013nissanleaf.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
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