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Nothing posted on the A3 e-tron lately so will share this ... hopefully NOT $51K as that simply won't fly with U.S. buyers with the latest round of competitors

Pricing for the A3 Sportback e-tron has not been announced for U.S. buyers, but European pricing has been set at 37,900 euros ($51,574 USD); the standard BMW i3 starts at $41,350, while the range-extended model starts at $45,200.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/audi-planning-full-range-of-plug-in-hybrids-83572.html

Still looks great though

audi-planning-full-range-of-plug-in-hybrids-83572_1.jpg
 
Those are great looking wheels which means.......... Audi will be changing them to something stupid and ugly looking for the cars US release(whenever that is)

somone want to photo shop some stupid aero wheels on that A3 pic and send it to the Audi execs ? and while your at it pus some dumb graphics on the side too.

maybe we can prevent another destruction of a nice looking ICE into stupid ugly.
 
Thanks for this. But oh my...
What confused us at first is that you can engage this 'regen' function by either hitting one of the steering wheel shifter paddles, pushing the shift selector into S or tapping the brakes. They all do the same thing (engage the motor), but that wasn't in any way clear. Tapping the brakes doesn't shift you into manual mode, of course, and if you use the paddles, the car will automatically revert to automatic transmission mode....
ZZzz...
I am so not interested in this. Sounds like they really really just wanted to find a way to get someone who wants an electric car to think that Audi was selling one.
One thing Nissan got right with the LEAF is it's a "no-gasoline-ever", EV at a decent price and fun enough at 0-30 mph). Simple.
One of the many things Tesla got right is making the driving easy and really really fun. At times the car drives like it's responding to my thoughts.
I'm not sure what the brain trust at Audi is doing here but from this article, I definitely don't want one. A shame because I think they make a fine A4-S7.
 
redLEAF said:
Nothing posted on the A3 e-tron lately so will share this ... hopefully NOT $51K as that simply won't fly with U.S. buyers with the latest round of competitors

Pricing for the A3 Sportback e-tron has not been announced for U.S. buyers, but European pricing has been set at 37,900 euros ($51,574 USD); the standard BMW i3 starts at $41,350, while the range-extended model starts at $45,200.


FYI the i3 is 34.950,00 € in Germany, with the RE model being 39.950,00 €. So we should expect a similar price for the A3 than the i3. German/European prices are always way higher than the US equivalent.
 
Looks like the base model (that's specced pretty nicely, though) is going to be around 34 grand after federal rebates:

http://insideevs.com/audi-a3-e-tron-priced-aggressively-us-37900-orders-open-now/

That's 7 grand more than the base Volt, with half the EV range, but I'd still take A3 instead, probably. Not too much more to spend to get some more "premium" goodies. And at least adaptive cruise is available, though only on the highest trim.
 
pkulak said:
Looks like the base model (that's specced pretty nicely, though) is going to be around 34 grand after federal rebates:

http://insideevs.com/audi-a3-e-tron-priced-aggressively-us-37900-orders-open-now/

That's 7 grand more than the base Volt, with half the EV range, but I'd still take A3 instead, probably. Not too much more to spend to get some more "premium" goodies. And at least adaptive cruise is available, though only on the highest trim.
If I needed to buy a car now (and I had somewhere to charge this that was less expensive than buying gas), it would definitely be on my list of possibles. I'd be happy to see it stripped a bit to drop the price even further; I prefer cloth, non-power seats, but I expect that puts me at odds with the majority of their target demographic. I'd probably even do without the sunroof, but I'd have to see it first. Maybe we won't see something like this unless they bring a Golf GTE Sportwagen here.
 
pkulak said:
Looks like the base model (that's specced pretty nicely, though) is going to be around 34 grand after federal rebates:

http://insideevs.com/audi-a3-e-tron-priced-aggressively-us-37900-orders-open-now/

That's 7 grand more than the base Volt, with half the EV range, but I'd still take A3 instead, probably. Not too much more to spend to get some more "premium" goodies. And at least adaptive cruise is available, though only on the highest trim.

Thanks for posting the update, decent pricing! I had considered the ICE version of the A3 hatch when it first came out a few years back but it had a tight rear seat; will be curious if this latest version is a bit roomier as has reported. Also, like the new look.
 
GRA said:
I'd be happy to see it stripped a bit to drop the price even further; I prefer cloth, non-power seats, but I expect that puts me at odds with the majority of their target demographic.

While it's not unusual in Europe to see "poverty-spec" Audis, that sounds like an oxymoron to North American ears, so we only see high-spec cars with engines that aren't typically delivered to European buyers.
 
More news outlets picking up the pricing info ...

http://www.autonews.com/article/201...i-prices-a3-e-tron-plug-in-hybrid-from-$38825

Would check to see what kind of plug it uses ...

The A3 e-tron’s battery pack can be recharged with a standard 120-volt household plug in about 8 hours or in a little more than 2 hours from a 240-volt home charging station made by Bosch Automotive Service Solutions that customers can buy as an extra.

although this photo from one sold in the UK appears to show J1772's should work ...

audi_a3_e-tron_plug-in_hybrid_car_1.jpg


I do like the fact that its up front versus either on the sides as that works best for my garage EVSE
 
Audi3 e-tron driving experience, cities and dates coming up ... appear to be mostly downtown city locations (at least Chicago is); I'm going to see if my son is interested; we already own two cars from the VW/Audi family (Golf R and Touareg) but I'm also quite interested in this new line of e-trons; both PHEV and EV's if/when they make it to the US. I'm sure this will simply be a loop around the city but we'll see!

etron-landing.jpg




http://etron.audiexperience.us/?csref=crm-email-p-08_15-enews_Tour
 
redLEAF said:
Audi3 e-tron driving experience, cities and dates coming up ... appear to be mostly downtown city locations (at least Chicago is); I'm going to see if my son is interested; we already own two cars from the VW/Audi family (Golf R and Touareg) but I'm also quite interested in this new line of e-trons; both PHEV and EV's if/when they make it to the US. I'm sure this will simply be a loop around the city but we'll see!

etron-landing.jpg




http://etron.audiexperience.us/?csref=crm-email-p-08_15-enews_Tour
I'm considering driving one when the come to S.F., but the lack of a Quattro version is disappointing.
 
Had yesterday off so attended the Chicago event in the early AM before it got too hot ... They had the cars (it looks the best in red IMO) parked right at the intersection of Michigan and Madison so lots of foot traffic; too bad that there is so much road construction downtown but they made the most of it. Inside they had some fairly decent tech set up to feature the new engine and battery tech being used. They also had a virtual reality drive in Recaro car seats that was kind of cool (can't wear glasses using it so a bit fuzzy for me).

As far as the A3 e-tron, quite nice, excellent interior materials, the MMI was pretty easy to use and despite how quiet our LEAF's are this Audi takes things to another level. The car is quite quick and pretty seamless as it switches between driving modes (all electric, combo gas/electric, charging the battery mode, etc.) , handles like an Audi should and in this 'sport back' mode, offers a bit more rear seat headroom over the A3 sedan plus some more cargo space.

It's not cheap, but then it's not in Tesla territory either, love the newer style front end grills that all the new Audis are sporting and like most German mfg's, these are solid, love the 'thunk' when closing the doors, etc.

Would I buy one ... well, the estimated 30 miles on 100% electric is more like 10 to 15 in highway driving, perhaps a bit more in stop & go traffic, as always YMMV. The neat trick it has is that the gas engine can charge up the battery while you're driving and the regen is adjustable on your driving mode and may be similar to what people have experienced on an i3 (to some degree); at least more aggressive than my '12 LEAF. If I could reliably get a true 29 to 30 miles on my daily commute, it could go all week without ever using gas, I'd not expect that on really hot or cold days with snow, but perhaps it's not quite there yet.

Also, ideally I'd like something perhaps just a bit bigger and would miss the higher ride height I've got with my trip car so plan to wait to see how they tweak this on the Q7 e-tron. It's Audi's first in the U.S. that's a plug-in so we'll see ... any one else take the drive, the guys who road with us just came from the NYC event so perhaps someone out east took advantage?

Overall, this was a well run event, the car offers another choice we didn't have before, I'm sure we'll have even more options as long as there is enough interest; in light of the cheap gas prices I'm sure they may question their timing but let's face it, eventually gas prices will go back up but that may postpone some mfg.'s from releasing some models we've only seen prototypes of.

Audi rep's say we should see these next month, hopefully they will tempt even more people considering PHEV's; if you enjoy driving, it's worth checking out.
 
redLEAF said:
Starting to make the rounds with car mags; recent production model test with AW:

http://autoweek.com/article/drive-reviews/audi-a3-e-tron-first-drive#ixzz3q3y3GWkc

'real world' -- only 15 to 17 miles is disappointing
I think it's quite reasonable, and those appear to be lead-footed auto journalist miles, not EPA miles: http://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/fatcat/2009/vt_TRPMILES.html

Let's see, that's 43.1% of trips are 3 miles or less, 50.3% are 4 or less, 57.6% are 5 or less, 76.2% are 10 or less, 85% are 15 or less, and 89.9% are 20 or less, leaving just 10.1% over 20 miles, and 83.5% of those trips are by personal vehicle (i.e. not public transit, walking, biking): http://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/fatcat/2009/pt_TRPTRANS.html
 
GRA said:
redLEAF said:
Starting to make the rounds with car mags; recent production model test with AW:

http://autoweek.com/article/drive-reviews/audi-a3-e-tron-first-drive#ixzz3q3y3GWkc

'real world' -- only 15 to 17 miles is disappointing
I think it's quite reasonable, and those appear to be lead-footed auto journalist miles, not EPA miles: http://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/fatcat/2009/vt_TRPMILES.html

Let's see, that's 43.1% of trips are 3 miles or less, 50.3% are 4 or less, 57.6% are 5 or less, 76.2% are 10 or less, 85% are 15 or less, and 89.9% are 20 or less, leaving just 10.1% over 20 miles, and 83.5% of those trips are by personal vehicle (i.e. not public transit, walking, biking): http://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/fatcat/2009/pt_TRPTRANS.html

I'm actually just about at the 'normal' daily work commute of about 15 miles each way, M - F but don't have the option to charge at work so unless it could get through say 3 out of our 4 seasons with a consistent 30 miles per charge simply won't work; we'll see how these do but this range is about half (31 miles on the EU circuit) so still disappointing, at least for me.
 
Yeah. 15 miles would be a huge disappointment. Isn't the PIP 11 miles? And that thing is a joke. I do about 30 miles a day, and I'm not sure I'm cool with doing fully half my miles on gas. I'll reserve judgement until the official EPA numbers come out, though. Even if it only has 6 kWh useable (which seems super low), that would only be 2.5 m/kWh! I just don't see how that's possible.
 
GRA said:
Let's see, that's 43.1% of trips are 3 miles or less, 50.3% are 4 or less, 57.6% are 5 or less, 76.2% are 10 or less, 85% are 15 or less, and 89.9% are 20 or less, leaving just 10.1% over 20 miles, and 83.5% of those trips are by personal vehicle (i.e. not public transit, walking, biking): http://nhts.ornl.gov/tables09/fatcat/2009/pt_TRPTRANS.html
You have to be careful about "trips".

If I drop & pickup kids on my way to work, my 20 mile round trip looks like 4 trips about 5 miles (or whatever depending on where the kids go).
 
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