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danev said:
My oh my, that is a bargain! Must have a boat load 2015s in SF area. For that price I might be tempted to forgo the extra range of the 2016
With all the talk of 150+ mile cars, I wouldn't be surprised if some months later the 107 mile car has a fire sale too. Here is talk about the Hyundai: https://plus.google.com/u/1/+DanielCardenas/posts/ZGrYrS5oG2B
 
250+ mile not 150+

Tesla isntalking 250+ mile $35k by 2018. I hear nissan is talking similar. They better be or tesla is going to crush all of them.
 
edatoakrun said:
DaveinOlyWA said:
2016 releases will be based on how fast the 2015's leave the lot.
I doubt that.

2015 LEAF dealer inventory is already below optimal (~60 days sales) and Nissan seems to have managed the 2015 MY wind-down well enough to avoid any fire sale.

The 2015 LEAF doesn't even make the Top Battery Electric Car Deals This Month list:

http://www.carsdirect.com/deals-articles/best-green-car-deals

As reported there, it Looks like you can lease an E Golf at a slightly lower cost, and a "2015 FIAT 500e an effective lease cost of just $225 per month, (is) $41 less than a Nissan LEAF".

Since Nissan reportedly has been manufacturing the 2016 LEAF for a few months now, if their is a delay in the introductions beyond "Fall", I think there is probably another reason for the delay, unknown to us at the moment.

doubters on "any" subject are a given. Thank you for your thoughts
 
http://eurekar.co.uk/articles/2015-10-18/new-nissan-leaf-2015---review

Looks like a test drive of a 2016 30kW Leaf. The title says 2015.
 
Hi,
in Europe we have already some little reviews:
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.automobile-propre.com%2Fessai-nissan-leaf-2016%2F&edit-text=&act=url

In the end they drive 201 km (124 miles) with two bars left.

Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBmH1ajTC4

Attached is the route which was very hilly.

essai-leaf-2016-10.jpg


I thought you in US would have first reviews, but Sunderland seems to be ready first ?!
 
Quite a few more reports from the Euro event showing up now:

http://www.just-auto.com/analysis/nissan-leaf-gets-a-longer-lead_id164049.aspx

http://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/nissan-leaf-30kwh-review-2015-first-drive-1019999870
 
DanCar said:
danev said:
My oh my, that is a bargain! Must have a boat load 2015s in SF area. For that price I might be tempted to forgo the extra range of the 2016
With all the talk of 150+ mile cars, I wouldn't be surprised if some months later the 107 mile car has a fire sale too. Here is talk about the Hyundai: https://plus.google.com/u/1/+DanielCardenas/posts/ZGrYrS5oG2B

Yup, my current plan is banking on a fire sale of the 2016. The 84 mile range of 2015 is just short of what I need to avoid range anxiety. 107 miles sound just right for me. Thus there is no good reason for me to wait for the 2017 if the 2016 becomes a bargain buy.
 
I could make the 2016 Leaf or the current B work for me. But given my commute (minimum 65 freeway one-way), I'd be a lot more comfortable with a range of 125+. However, if there are bargain sales on either or my ICE needs replacing sooner, I could go those 2 routes. However, without 125+ range, I'd probably go i3 with Rex or C350e to be safe on the range. But part of me wants to stay pure BEV while another part of me is MB fanboy. It is good to be getting some intriguing choices.
 
EVrevolution said:
Hi,
in Europe we have already some little reviews:
https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.automobile-propre.com%2Fessai-nissan-leaf-2016%2F&edit-text=&act=url

In the end they drive 201 km (124 miles) with two bars left.

Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWBmH1ajTC4

Attached is the route which was very hilly.

I thought you in US would have first reviews, but Sunderland seems to be ready first ?!
Thanks for the links, if you turn on CC and translate to English, it works pretty well to help you understand what the person is saying in his review.
 
knightmb said:
Thanks for the links, if you turn on CC and translate to English, it works pretty well to help you understand what the person is saying in his review.

Thanks for the CC + Translation tip.

It does help to understand and is very entertaining as well. I loved the bit at 1:25 where the translation fails with the statement

"Lining retrieve new churches in beer containers".

Does that mean your pastor is watching you when you drink beer? :)
 
InsideEVs just posted a test-drive review from Auto Express on the 30-kWh LEAF. It's not particularly positive:
Auto Express said:
Verdict for the 2016 LEAF 30 kWh is 3/5.

“It’s obvious that the 30kWh battery adds a useful, anxiety-reducing dose of extra mileage to the Leaf, but whether it’ll convert the electric sceptic is debatable. That’s because by every other measure the Leaf remains fairly average, with a bland driving experience and a slightly insipid cabin. It’s a little jarring that the denser battery is available only on mid-spec Acenta cars and up, too, effectively making the actual cost of a bigger range quite substantial.”
 
RegGuheert said:
InsideEVs just posted a test-drive review from Auto Express on the 30-kWh LEAF. It's not particularly positive:
Auto Express said:
Verdict for the 2016 LEAF 30 kWh is 3/5.

“It’s obvious that the 30kWh battery adds a useful, anxiety-reducing dose of extra mileage to the Leaf, but whether it’ll convert the electric sceptic is debatable. That’s because by every other measure the Leaf remains fairly average, with a bland driving experience and a slightly insipid cabin. It’s a little jarring that the denser battery is available only on mid-spec Acenta cars and up, too, effectively making the actual cost of a bigger range quite substantial.”


Leaving us "Ser's" out of the equation does not evoke a positive feeling in me either. I only hope the 2017 will be different when I am back in the market. This gives Nissan 14 months to think about it...
 
Regarding Auto Express review, they gave the Mirai 4/5 stars and rated its cabin highly. I would only have an EV as my around town daily driver so in that respect, I am quite satisfied with the LEAF. Based on the criteria they selected, though, I am not inclined to disagree with their 3/5 LEAF review.

The LEAF does not produce a composed ride over bumps at all and I wished I had tested it on my local pockmarked roads prior to leasing. If the 30 kWh battery weighs the same or more, the result should be the same unless they have strengthened the suspension. Sorry if this is OT but possibly aftermarket struts may help, if I end up purchasing (and my residual is happily very low).
Cheers.
 
I purchased mine in December 2014, and hope that Nissan will make all of the new batteries compatible with exisiting leafs or give an extraordinary trade in allowance for longer range vehicles.
 
skleibel said:
I purchased mine in December 2014, and hope that Nissan will make all of the new batteries compatible with exisiting leafs or give an extraordinary trade in allowance for longer range vehicles.

I've got a 2011

The trade in offer against a new LEAF was $3,500. Don't hold your breath on that extraordinary trade-in allowance.
 
I say the hell with Nissan and hanging on every word or gossip they leak. I have always been an early adopter of technology, including Stereos, CDs, VHS, and computers and have formed the following opinion over the years. DO NOT CARE about small improvements in technology. They are the companies' way of separating you from your wallet!! Over the years, I spent THOUSANDS on the next generation of computers for nothing. The best consumer strategy is to used the crap out of your technology until several generations of improvements have gone by, and you got your value out of the old tech you originally bought. Small appliances may lose their value when new ones come out, but a car that transports you does not devalue at the same rate because it is useful to you every day. The steel, tires, and hardware of the car are always going to be the same, and the body of a car can last multiple decades... That is really what makes a car's value, the body and condition.

SO, my strategy is the following. I own a 2015 that handles all of my driving needs of over 1100 miles /month. I save $$$ in gas that I do not have to buy every mile I drive. I plan to drive it into the ground for 100-120k miles until there are only 5 bars left on the battery. Then, I will put in a new battery and drive it for another 100-120k miles. I have an S version, so I already have $5000 saved over not having bought the SL version! I suggest to all OWNERS of Leafs.. IMHO, Enjoy your marvel of technology as long as you can and don't be a sucker to give Nissan $$ for insignificant incremental changes and optional equipment that really does not change your EV experience.
 
I don't know about the U.S but here the 30 Kwh Leaf top spec will cost a little less than the first gen Leaf did when it was launched in 2011.

Sadly though on the 30 Kwh the 6.6Kw charger is disgracefully and option, the 3.3 should be scrapped altogether !
 
JPWhite said:
skleibel said:
I purchased mine in December 2014, and hope that Nissan will make all of the new batteries compatible with exisiting leafs or give an extraordinary trade in allowance for longer range vehicles.

I've got a 2011

The trade in offer against a new LEAF was $3,500. Don't hold your breath on that extraordinary trade-in allowance.


Ouch!
 
Charging time for 100 km should be clearly shortened.
Charging-Time.jpg


http://www.hybridcars.com/ids-concept-foreshadows-60-kwh-2018-nissan-leaf/
 
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