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Via GCR: http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1107682_nissan-offers-2g-leaf-owners-a-199-3g-upgrade-with-just-24-days-left
GetOffYourGas said:Has anyone received any communication from Nissan themselves? I got the original letter, but that is it. Also, has Nissan officially stated that the service will be free to use for the remainder of the life of the vehicle? I am looking for something official from Nissan, not reported on a website. I may be willing to pay the $199 for the upgrade, but not if they are going to turn around and add in a monthly fee.
bobcubsfan said:Still, Nissan failed to use 3G or 4G for CarWings. For an EV with advance technology, that is an oversight.
littauer said:Stanton:
Can you please provide more details on the upgrade you were able to buy? Part number, especially, but anything else that might help. My service advisor has nothing even after calling Nissan directly, but says if he had more info he might be able to get somewhere.
Thanks!!
-ben-
It wasn't an oversight to *use* 2G. It was an oversight to not include hardware capable of both 2G and 3G communication. Every cheap mobile phone in the world has had the ability to do both for several years now. This could have been a simple flash reprogramming instead of a hardware replacement.baustin said:It wasn't an oversight.
garsh said:It wasn't an oversight to *use* 2G. It was an oversight to not include hardware capable of both 2G and 3G communication. Every cheap mobile phone in the world has had the ability to do both for several years now. This could have been a simple flash reprogramming instead of a hardware replacement.baustin said:It wasn't an oversight.
baustin said:Maybe so for phones, but the TCU being used was a 2010 (or older) model. What was the cost difference, at that time, between a 2G unit and a 2G/3G unit? Also, AT&T had not yet announced any plans to discontinue 2G service. Nissan chose to keep their costs as low as possible.
Durandal said:baustin said:Maybe so for phones, but the TCU being used was a 2010 (or older) model. What was the cost difference, at that time, between a 2G unit and a 2G/3G unit? Also, AT&T had not yet announced any plans to discontinue 2G service. Nissan chose to keep their costs as low as possible.
Actually, AT&T announced plans to discontinue 2G service in 2012.
http://www.corp.att.com/erate/docs/2g_sunset.pdf
That means for the 2013 models onward, Nissan KNEW the 2G TCUs were going to be rendered inoperable by January 2017, but chose to continue using them, all the way through the 2016 models.
For the chips? Negligible. 4G services were being deployed in 2010. So 3G wasn't even cutting edge at the time. Every cut-rate cell phone being sold was capable of 3G.baustin said:Maybe so for phones, but the TCU being used was a 2010 (or older) model. What was the cost difference, at that time, between a 2G unit and a 2G/3G unit?
It seems even more insane that they would use a module that didn't support enough frequencies to be moved to a different network via a SIM card & software update.Also, AT&T had not yet announced any plans to discontinue 2G service.
garsh said:For the chips? Negligible. 4G services were being deployed in 2010. So 3G wasn't even cutting edge at the time. Every cut-rate cell phone being sold was capable of 3G.baustin said:Maybe so for phones, but the TCU being used was a 2010 (or older) model. What was the cost difference, at that time, between a 2G unit and a 2G/3G unit?It seems even more insane that they would use a module that didn't support enough frequencies to be moved to a different network via a SIM card & software update.Also, AT&T had not yet announced any plans to discontinue 2G service.
Has anyone tried swapping the SIM for a T-Mobile one and confirming that it works?baustin said:They could probably be moved to the T-Mobile network with just a SIM card change, if they still offered 2G service.
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