DNAinaGoodWay
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Valdemar said:So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
With like 7 more kWh it only gets 1 mile more range? What's up with that?
Valdemar said:So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
Agreed. That's a great link. Thanks.edatoakrun said:Excellent discussion of the I oniq, with comparisons to other BEVs and PHEVs at the thread below:
http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/54013/
Efficiency can trump capacityDNAinaGoodWay said:Valdemar said:So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
With like 7 more kWh it only gets 1 mile more range? What's up with that?
rmay635703 said:Efficiency can trump capacityDNAinaGoodWay said:Valdemar said:So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
With like 7 more kWh it only gets 1 mile more range? What's up with that?
DNAinaGoodWay said:Valdemar said:So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
With like 7 more kWh it only gets 1 mile more range? What's up with that?
Rebel44 said:DNAinaGoodWay said:Valdemar said:So, why would I buy the Ioniq EV over the 2017 VW eGolf with upgraded battery?
With like 7 more kWh it only gets 1 mile more range? What's up with that?
AFAIK:
Ioniq 28kWh is capacity available to user
E-Golf 35kWh is total capacity
So, available capacity is most likely similar
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1109060_2017-hyundai-ioniq-electric-first-drive-review-of-124-mile-electric-car2017 Hyundai Ioniq Electric: first drive review of 124-mile electric car
GRA said:Sounds like a good commute car for one/two, with room for pre-adolescent kids in back.
Disappointing if this is the case I already have a smallish rear seat and limited cargo space vehicle with the Leaf, I was looking for something to carry 2 full sized adults in the back seat and more, not less cargo room than the Leaf.....hopefully I'll know more on Wed if they have the Ioniq at my local auto show. If not the Ioniq then maybe the Nero, although other than possibly more upright seating the Nero sounds like it may have even less cargo room....again time will tell, but no way I'm going to go backwards on cargo/passenger room only to gain more battery capacity. For the most part I'm OK with the Leafs range(although I wouldn't mind more) but not so much with overall passenger/cargo room, though I'm quite satisfied with front seat room on the LeafGRA said:...but battery pack under rear seats and cargo area limit headroom and usable space more than LEAF, Bolt etc. (rear seat only suitable for small adults), despite numbers indicating Ionic has more volume. Sounds like a good commute car for one/two, with room for pre-adolescent kids in back.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20170311/OEM05/303139994/hyundai-sees-ioniq-as-a-compact-contenderHyundai sees Ioniq as a compact contender
Looking beyond the green-car market with new hybrid
SANTA BARBARA, Calif. -- Never mind that Hyundai's Ioniq is the most fuel efficient car in the industry without a plug. That's not how the automaker plans to sell it.
Instead, Hyundai will stick to a more basic pitch: The Ioniq is a capable compact car that just happens to have a degree in eco-friendliness.
Hyundai's reasons are simple. While the green-car market is small, there's gold -- in the form of conquest opportunities -- in the overall compact-car market, an important entry point where consumers' brand loyalties begin to form...
"If we did our very best at conquesting the king -- we'll say the Prius -- that's not a lot of sales," Mike O'Brien, vice president of product planning at Hyundai, said last month here at the press launch of the Ioniq. "So instead of focusing on a competitor, we're looking at the 1.1 million people that came very close to buying [a green car] but then bought something else."...
http://insideevs.com/hyundai-ioniq-electric-subscription-price/Hyundai Ioniq Electric Subscription From $275 A Month, Arriving In US Now
. . . That’s what it’ll cost you to drive as much as you want in a new EV for 36 months. There is a $2,500 down payment, but the state of California offers a rebate of, well guess what, $2,500. If you wonder what’ll happen if you don’t live in California and so can’t get the rebate, well guess what, Hyundai’s subscription offer is only good in the Golden State. And, for now, it’s only available in a few parts of California, specifically Los Angeles, Orange, and Riverside counties. The subscription will come to NorCal and SanDiego later this year.
. . . there are three trim options: the base Electric trim, the Limited ($305 plus tax), and the Limited with the Ultimate Package ($365 plus tax). All have the same “zero-money” down initiation fee and are for a three-year subscription. If we do the math, then we can see that this lease-like subscription will end up costing you $9,900 for the Electric, $10,980 for the Limited, or $13,140 for the Ultimate Package.
. . . to outright buy an Ioniq Electric will cost you at least $29,500, or $22,000 after the $7,500 federal tax credit. It’s not a good idea to simply compare the numbers, though, because the Unlimited+ price covers more than just the car itself . . . it includes:
- $0 initiation fee after rebate
Hassle-free transaction
Initial tax, title, license and fees (except California sales tax)
Unlimited mileage (no mileage penalties)
Electric charging reimbursement
Scheduled maintenance [for first 50,000 miles]
Vehicle wear items
. . . Hyundai’s official “arrives this Spring” website disclaimer has now been replaced with “Currently, Ioniq Electric is only available to California residents“, an important distinction as the Ioniq was previously to be made available to California and 9 other ZEV states out of the gate.
The Ioniq Electric is to remain a compliance-only offering, while the upcoming Ioniq Plug-In Hybrid will be offered nationwide beginning with the 2018 model year this Fall.
http://insideevs.com/2018-hyundai-ioniq-plug-hybrid-test-drive-review/2018 Hyundai IONIQ Plug-In Hybrid Test Drive Review
Hyundai’s plug-in Ioniq does everything your Prius Prime can do, but better. . . .
There’s a lot of unknown data about the Plug-In model; Hyundai won’t release fuel economy and pricing data until closer to the car’s on-sale date. The PHEV uses the same 1.6-liter inline four-cylinder engine as the Ioniq Hybrid, but has a larger, 8.9-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery, and puts out a combined system output of 139 horsepower. Hyundai says the Plug-In will offer at least 27 miles of electric range when fully charged, and considering it uses the same powertrain as the Hybrid in the same package, a fuel economy rating somewhere around 58 mpg doesn’t seem out of reach.
But following a quick spin around Hyundai’s technical center in southeast Michigan, one thing is for sure. The Ioniq Plug-In is a better looking, better driving car than Toyota’s Prius Prime, and puts the whole PHEV package in a car that feels, well, normal. . . .
Actually fun to drive. No joke, the Ioniq is super pleasant to scoot around in – more so, in fact, than its competitors. I could use more steering feedback, but the action is progressive with accurate response. The chassis is nicely composed, and this car doesn’t hate being hustled into a bend or two, its Michelin Energy Saver 205/55R16 tires not exhibiting a lot of the understeer-heavy characteristics of other low-rolling-resistance eco tires. Overall, the experience feels similar to that of a typical gas-engine car. This is one compact plug-in hybrid that doesn’t feel weird from behind the wheel. . . .
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