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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:01 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:Since a fix for the Bolt seats is now available, and easy to implement, I may well lease a Bolt this Spring or Summer. If Nissan has any sense left, they will leak some critical Leaf specs like motor output and pack capacity(s) long before September, and will make it clear that orders will be fulfilled by this coming Christmas. Otherwise people will have little reason to wait into or past next Winter for a warmed-over Leaf.


It depends on what they've got.

If they have a 200+ miles of range option, it would make some sense to hint at that atleast. That way they can keep people from jumping ship.

If they don't have a 200+ mile option, I'm not sure what would be better. If they announce that - that will encourage people to jump ship now. If they only announce in Sep, they would disappoint a lot of folks who'd go elsewhere.

About when they will fulfil orders - that's a tough one. Production schedules can always slip, so it is difficult for any OEM to assure delivery.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Agreed, but since Nissan seems to be doing this as cheaply as possible, they should have been ably to do it fairly quickly as well. As it is, it looks like Nissan will be slugging it out with Hyundai at the bottom of the EV hierarchy.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:41 am

I just spoke with NMAC to get my lease extended again while I wait for more info on the 2018 LEAF. I don't know how much information they have on the 2018 LEAF but they were very firm when I asked them multiple times regarding being able to order in September 2017 and actually receiving the car in the dealership in March 2018. If so, it's going to be a looooong wait.

FYI for others, my lease extension ends August 2017 and they are offering me another extension with the 3 months free, but with a lease end date of March 2018.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:43 am

MSELeaf wrote:I just spoke with NMAC to get my lease extended again while I wait for more info on the 2018 LEAF. I don't know how much information they have on the 2018 LEAF but they were very firm when I asked them multiple times regarding being able to order in September 2017 and actually receiving the car in the dealership in March 2018. If so, it's going to be a looooong wait.

FYI for others, my lease extension ends August 2017 and they are offering me another extension with the 3 months free, but with a lease end date of March 2018.


Did they say "in Mar '18" or "by Mar '18" ? If they are told to say "by Mar '18" what is the possibility they will substitute "in Mar '18" for "by Mar '18" ?
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:58 am

evnow wrote:Did they say "in Mar '18" or "by Mar '18" ? If they are told to say "by Mar '18" what is the possibility they will substitute "in Mar '18" for "by Mar '18" ?


I definitely was told "in March 2018". I made sure to ask 3 times because that just didn't seem right to me if the car is supposed to be up for order in September.

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:46 pm

Looks like I'll be driving a Bolt Premier, with front seat covers. I hope that I LIKE the damned car.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:18 pm

I'm guessing the fact that they're being so mum on details of the kWh of the Leaf means that it's only going to be a 40kWh battery. Otherwise, if it was a 50-60kWh battery, they would probably be trumpeting it in order to keep people from jumping off the Nissan ship.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:18 am

I haven't kept track of what is known and what is suspected. IIRC, Nissan said they could beat Bolt. for a price. Then there was speculation of all sorts or battery sizes. Have we heard any more more confirmation from Nissan that there will be a 40 kWh battery than that there will be a team of 8 shiny unicorns providing the power? I don't see evidence the 2.0 will meet my needs any better than my 2011 with 8 bars. Six days a week I travel less than 30 miles. Each Saturday I go 180 on the freeway, through the mountains, including Winter.
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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:27 am

Yes, we know that the Bolt has 60kWh usable.

288 cells * (60-65ah * 3.6-3.7v nominal) = 62.2kWh - 69.3kWh calculated total battery size

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Re: LEAF 2 : What we know so far (2018 or later?)

Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:20 pm

Durandal wrote:I'm guessing the fact that they're being so mum on details of the kWh of the Leaf means that it's only going to be a 40kWh battery. Otherwise, if it was a 50-60kWh battery, they would probably be trumpeting it in order to keep people from jumping off the Nissan ship.


You don't know Nissan very well. They literally slipped the 30 kwh S trim into the 2016 MY without saying a word!
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