A warning would be present if it were dangerous to *your* health, e.g. if the battery might explode.powersurge said:
That high temperatures reduce battery life is only contested by people who are truly living in a fantasy world.
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That high temperatures reduce battery life is only contested by people who are truly living in a fantasy world.
Phoenix temperatures are crazy, for people and LEAFs. Without artificial cooling the area would ruled by cactus and lizards.
We, on the other hand, had a little new snow on the ground this morning. I saw the battery temp bump up to 5 bars last week after mountain driving but it is back to 4 bars now.
We, on the other hand, had a little new snow on the ground this morning. I saw the battery temp bump up to 5 bars last week after mountain driving but it is back to 4 bars now.
powersurge
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5 bars of temperature does not seem like a lot. Even at freezing outside temperatures I get about 3-4 bars of battery temperature..
Looking at the dash, it looks like the gauge could go up to about 9-10 bars before it hits the "RED=DANGER" part of the gauge..
Looking at the dash, it looks like the gauge could go up to about 9-10 bars before it hits the "RED=DANGER" part of the gauge..
I live in Southern California and as per usual here my panel is outside. When I had 100A service when the sun hit the panel it reduced my capacity. Once with a 60A load the main breaker tripped. Now I have the code minimum of 200A service and I never expect the breaker to trip on my loads.
powersurge said:
5 bars isn't a lot. Sagebrush was saying, I think, that a Leaf can go to the top of what many of us consider the 'safe zone' even in Winter. I've never seen 6 bars in Winter, though.
IssacZachary
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I don't remember seeing more than two bars all January. I've been hitting five bars now for the past few days in the afternoons.
I typically see 4 bars in Winter, sometimes less, but even when the nights are frigid the days usually aren't, so the pack's mass keeps it from getting really cold. I rarely have the pack heater run.
hyperionmark
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I was at 6 bars today and had a chance to get some free juice at 6kW. I chose not to because you all scared me. 
7 bars now, it may cool down to 6 by the time off-peak rates start at 9:00 pm before I start charging. Red zone starts at 11 bars. I saw 8 bars during the record heat last week.
Graffi
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hyperionmark said:I was at 6 bars today and had a chance to get some free juice at 6kW. I chose not to because you all scared me.
No need to be scared. Unless your pack is in the very high range L2 should not be a concern. Only L3, DCFC, should be watched, but again not a concern, just watch the temp bars during charging. If you see it heading towards very high, then, and only then, should you think about switching to L2. JMHO
My 2013 Leaf SL, 08-13 build, just lost first capacity bar at 3-year and 8-months and 49,600 miles. I still get 60 miles @ 80% and 80 miles @ 100%.
As was stated earlier, your Leaf should be a worry free car. Just enjoy it.
As a side note, you should only use "FREE" charging if it is convenient to you, or you need extra juice to get back home. I finally learned this when one day I was sitting at the "FREE" L3 DCFC and realized that I was spending about 30 minutes, and driving a few miles out of the way, to get what would have only cost me $1.00 at home. I had never thought of it before because it was "fun and entertaining" to go to the dealer to plug in. Since that day we have only used "FREE" electricity if it was absolutely necessary to add electricity to the battery to make it back home (a very rare situation, and one that we actually planned on). Now, even that should no longer happen.
We are exchanging our ICE for the new Tesla S 75D for our longer driving trips. Now, before you say only rich folks can get a Tesla, I justified it by amortizing it over 1,000,000 miles, so only $0.10 per mile + $0.05 per mile for maintenance. This is still less than the cost of gas in the ICE. We got a Tesla that still qualifies for the Lifetime Supercharger use so we are able to use it for our long-distance trips, both local, regional, and cross-country. We pick it up in 3 days in Denver, CO, to drive it home. Our first road trip.
hyperionmark
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Thank you for the well thought out and considerate post. You make a lot of good points. And congrats on the new Tesla! You have to be over the moon excited! Hopefully you get to take in some sights on the way home. Enjoy the trip!Graffi said:hyperionmark said:I was at 6 bars today and had a chance to get some free juice at 6kW. I chose not to because you all scared me.
No need to be scared. Unless your pack is in the very high range L2 should not be a concern. Only L3, DCFC, should be watched, but again not a concern, just watch the temp bars during charging. If you see it heading towards very high, then, and only then, should you think about switching to L2. JMHO
My 2013 Leaf SL, 08-13 build, just lost first capacity bar at 3-year and 8-months and 49,600 miles. I still get 60 miles @ 80% and 80 miles @ 100%.
As was stated earlier, your Leaf should be a worry free car. Just enjoy it.
As a side note, you should only use "FREE" charging if it is convenient to you, or you need extra juice to get back home. I finally learned this when one day I was sitting at the "FREE" L3 DCFC and realized that I was spending about 30 minutes, and driving a few miles out of the way, to get what would have only cost me $1.00 at home. I had never thought of it before because it was "fun and entertaining" to go to the dealer to plug in. Since that day we have only used "FREE" electricity if it was absolutely necessary to add electricity to the battery to make it back home (a very rare situation, and one that we actually planned on). Now, even that should no longer happen.
We are exchanging our ICE for the new Tesla S 75D for our longer driving trips. Now, before you say only rich folks can get a Tesla, I justified it by amortizing it over 1,000,000 miles, so only $0.10 per mile + $0.05 per mile for maintenance. This is still less than the cost of gas in the ICE. We got a Tesla that still qualifies for the Lifetime Supercharger use so we are able to use it for our long-distance trips, both local, regional, and cross-country. We pick it up in 3 days in Denver, CO, to drive it home. Our first road trip.
