edatoakrun said:
Drivers of both of the Model 3s (presumably, TSLA employees) are reported to have Teslad both of the two public CHAdeMO/CCS DC chargers by blocking access to the chargers, without paying for and using them.
While I am certainly not going to defend this particular practice of blocking the spots without actually making use of them--although the statement is weakened by the fact that the drivers are standing right there next to their vehicles--I am having a real hard time following your logic about why Tesla drivers charging at CHAdeMO/CCS chargers are somehow different than any other BEV driver that charges at those same charging stations, and sometimes abusing it by abandoning their vehicle for longer than it takes to complete the charge.
And I'm certainly not saying that all Tesla drivers are not @$$holes about public charging...there is a guy in my area that checks in his Tesla Model X at public L2 charging stations in the area, sometimes only an hour or so apart. I suppose it could be a legitimate use of the charging stations, but I somehow doubt it and feel that like most of us after we got our EVs--he basically enjoys the feeling of getting something for free.
But back to your complaint about the supposed hypocrisy of Tesla keeping their Supercharger network proprietary and yet "allowing" (or maybe enabling) their customers to use CHAdeMO/CCS (which I think--but I'm not sure--is your point).
First, isn't it true that Tesla has offered to open up their Superchargers to other makes of cars, provided they can accept the high charging rates offered by the SC (so as not to tie them up for a long period of time) and that they pay into the expansion and operation of the network? Both of those seem entirely reasonable requests to me. Sure, maybe that is not the model that other automakers want to use, but as a DRIVER, I would be perfectly content (if I had a hypothetical non-Tesla EV that me the charge rate requirements), I would gladly pay for use of the SC, just as I gladly pay for access to CHAdeMO today.
So how about the other side of the coin? Tesla owners charging at CHAdeMO. Well I just don't see what the big deal here is. If they are at a pay station, they pay for their charge, and I presume they wouldn't actually pay for the charge unless they actually needed it.
And if it's a free charger (say at a Nissan dealer), then it comes down to whether they really need the charge or not. But the same can be said for any EV driver. Having said that, I think that it's generally fair for fast charger owners to either charge a nominal fee to discourage non-essential use, or to clearly state their rules, restrictions and policies. So for example there is a shopping area in my area that has a fast charger. But they don't really have a clear policy marked so it's common for EVs to plug in and leave their vehicle there for an hour or more. How about Nissan dealers? Well Nissan has at least invested in the infrastructure (to the dismay of their dealers) and established a quasi-network. It would be fair of them to perhaps restrict use to only LEAFs (although they probably couldn't be bothered to enforce a ban on non-LEAFs, and it would create ill will towards potential customers anyway). But if you're going to have a problem with Tesla owners charging at Nissan dealerships and tying up the CHAdeMO, then you can really only blame Nissan for not having a policy that forbids it.
Personally, when driving my Volt, I would generally not go to another type of dealer to charge my car (unless it was an emergency). The same for my LEAF (but for CHAdeMO, Nissan is really the only game in town around me). As a potential future Model 3 driver I can't say I would never charge at a Nissan dealer, but I certainly would charge at a public/pay CHAdeMO station if need be (but only when actually required).
It's bigger than they said it would be back a year or so ago.
