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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:27 am

evnow wrote:What was your solid argument, again ?


Peripheral vision. You can see the speed without looking at the speedo. I think a lot of people on this thread underestimate their own ability to do so, even subconsciously.

The biggest argument for a digital speedo is location. I am going to miss having the "eyebrow" above the steering wheel with the speed on it. I have it on my Leaf, and had it on my 2010 Insight before that.

But like I said, the CMax doesn't have that. It has an analog speedo in nearly the same location as the 2018 Leaf (its is centered, while the Leaf's is slightly to the right). I can absolutely see it without looking at it, whereas the Leaf I have to actually look away from the road to read it. Yes, I can see the road through peripheral vision, but I'd rather it be the other way - eyes on the road, periphery on the gauges. Analog allows that, digital does not.
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Re: 2018 leaf speedometer - It's really a floor wax and a desert topping after all!

Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:19 am

Stanton wrote:The negative in this case is I would have to "choose" this speed display in lieu of some other (potentially useful) display


What is missing from this screen? It's got two speedometers for whatever your preference is, a compass, range remaining, what gear the car is in, SOC, Trip odometer, media setting, time, temperature, ePedal and Pro Pilot status, and the usual crew of warning lights. If you select it, it's there the next time the car is started.

I think it is exactly what is needed.

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Re: 2018 leaf speedometer - It's really a floor wax and a desert topping after all!

Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:51 am

OrientExpress wrote:What is missing from this screen?


All that's missing is something to complain about :lol:
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Re: 2018 leaf speedometer - It's really a floor wax and a desert topping after all!

Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:29 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:All that's missing is something to complain about :lol:


Isn't that the truth. That's what happens when you get a bunch of grumpy old men with nothing to do but sit in front of their computer in their underwear!
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:44 pm

Isn't there a Leaf Fanboi Club? They could really use guys like you two.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:03 pm

Nubo wrote:For some folks it does seem to be about fashion and not wanting a "'70's appearance. So I'm wondering if that's the predominant reason for the dislikes or other more technical or physiological reasons that they can explain.


That "old school" look seems to not be a problem for high end watch makers like Rolex. You're also starting to see them more on high end cars today, just like before.

Anybody remember when digital dashes first started to appear on cars close to 40 years ago? They were offered on quite a few cars for a short while, but most manufacturers ended up going back to analog until quite recently.
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:28 pm

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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:23 am

LeftieBiker wrote:Isn't there a Leaf Fanboi Club? They could really use guys like you two.


Fanboi? Nah. I just enjoy my car, and believe the 2018 is a significant stride forward. I still remember 10 years ago when acquiring an EV at all meant converting / building it yourself. I'm thrilled that we are arguing about such mundane details!
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Re: 2018 leaf speedometer - It's really a floor wax and a desert topping after all!

Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:38 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
Stanton wrote:The negative in this case is I would have to "choose" this speed display in lieu of some other (potentially useful) display


What is missing from this screen? It's got two speedometers for whatever your preference is, a compass, range remaining, what gear the car is in, SOC, Trip odometer, media setting, time, temperature, ePedal and Pro Pilot status, and the usual crew of warning lights. If you select it, it's there the next time the car is started.

I think it is exactly what is needed.

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Nice! I figured that would include a digital one. That makes me happy
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Re: 2018 leaf analog speedometer . Whadayathink?

Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:22 pm

I was just at the Sunnyvale EVent at their research office. The marketing guy (Brian), confirmed that one of the screen choices on the left LCD is a digital speedometer.

People asked him about why the analog speedo. IIRC (I hope I'm paraphrasing correctly), is that they got customer feedback that having a needle moving has a (wanted) psychological effect on people and I guess gives them a sense of acceleration that a more traditional car brings. And, that it was lacking in a purely digital speedo.

There were a few other folks standing around him who heard this answer. Chime in if I'm not correctly remembering/conveying.

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