Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:20 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:No, it was likely a response to the EPA down-rating the range of the 2013 because Nissan called the 80% option "long life mode."


Then why not allow Nissan Connect as an add-on option for the leaf S as well? It's standard on the SV & SL trims.
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26 Oct 2017 - 15.5k miles & 344 GIDs]

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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:33 am

The S has no telematics unit (modem).
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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Oils4AsphaultOnly
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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:34 am

LeftieBiker wrote:The S has no telematics unit (modem).


"options" can be software and/or hardware components that can be added at the factory, like ChaDeMo ports and 6.6kw versus 3.3kw chargers. So why not make Nissan Connect an option?

If I may anticipate your next response and answer it? If the required modem (and cpu) is bundled with the NAV, then I guess I'm out of objections. Dropping the S trim, or dropping the SV trim and adding NAV as an option for the S is a corporate decision driven by product marketing. The end result being that it's up to the end customer to make the informed decision to go with the SV model instead of cheaping out with the base S model right? Too bad my nearby dealerships mostly stocked the S trim. :(
[2013 leaf traded for 2016 leaf S30:
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6 Sep 2017 - 13k miles & 359 GIDs
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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:13 am

Asked and answered. ;-)
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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:01 pm

For those outside the US, the 60 kWh Leaf may start selling well before Tesla Model 3 does.

If the battery does come with LG Chem's TMS... yummy.

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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:12 pm

internalaudit wrote:For those outside the US, the 60 kWh Leaf may start selling well before Tesla Model 3 does.
Also for those INSIDE the US who are NOT employees of Tesla, the 60-kWh LEAF may start selling well before Tesla Model 3 does. (Nissan sold over 4000 LEAFs the first month it was on sale in Japan. Tesla sold 30 Model 3s. I suppose they will figure out how to weld them eventually...)
internalaudit wrote:If the battery does come with LG Chem's TMS... yummy.
Yeah, that seems to be what will be in the 60-kWh LEAF in about a year.
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
2011 miles at purchase. 10K miles on Apr 14, 2013. 20K miles (55.7Ah) on Aug 7, 2014, 30K miles (52.0Ah) on Dec 30, 2015, 40K miles (49.8Ah) on Feb 8, 2017.
Enphase Inverter Measured MTBF: M190, M215, M250, S280

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RegGuheert
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Re: Why the LEAF Gen 2 and not the 220 miles Tesla Model 3?

Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:13 pm

RegGuheert wrote:
internalaudit wrote:For those outside the US, the 60 kWh Leaf may start selling well before Tesla Model 3 does.
Also for those INSIDE the US who are NOT employees of Tesla, the 60-kWh LEAF may start selling well before Tesla Model 3 does. ;) (Nissan sold over 4000 LEAFs the first month it was on sale in Japan. Tesla sold 30 Model 3s. I suppose they will figure out how to weld them eventually...)
internalaudit wrote:If the battery does come with LG Chem's TMS... yummy.
Yeah, that seems to be what will be in the 60-kWh LEAF in about a year.
RegGuheert
2011 Leaf SL Demo vehicle
2011 miles at purchase. 10K miles on Apr 14, 2013. 20K miles (55.7Ah) on Aug 7, 2014, 30K miles (52.0Ah) on Dec 30, 2015, 40K miles (49.8Ah) on Feb 8, 2017.
Enphase Inverter Measured MTBF: M190, M215, M250, S280

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