I think that in cases like that, they look at the surveys or comments, and then choose the ones they want to use as reasons for decisions already made.
LOL. Maybe so.LeftieBiker said:I think that in cases like that, they look at the surveys or comments, and then choose the ones they want to use as reasons for decisions already made.
cwerdna said:LOL. Maybe so.LeftieBiker said:I think that in cases like that, they look at the surveys or comments, and then choose the ones they want to use as reasons for decisions already made.
Users here on MNL are only a tiny cross-section of Leaf drivers and we don't know what's on the minds of folks who considered and actually test drove a Leaf but then got something else. For all we know, people perceived the Gen 1 Leaf as "slow" due to the digital speedo. Nissan had digital speedos on cars long ago (e.g. mid-80s) when lots of other automakers were doing the same. I remember the '86 Maxima owned by a friend's parents had that along w/other fad (but actually cool) features for the time like synthesized voice for "your headlights are on", "right door is open", and a keypad on the outside to unlock the car.
2002 Maxima that I had didn't have any of the above, even as a choice on loaded one.
My 04 350Z did have the choice of a digital speedo but it was on the trip computer to the right of the driver. In front of the driver was 3 round gauge areas.
wtdedula said:Hi All;
I responded to this thread early but now after driving my 2015 Leaf for about 3 weeks, I'm going to add to my response. Nothing has changed since my initial response, except that I am even more pro-digital speedometer.
After coming from cars that exclusively had analog speedometers all my life and then coming to a Leaf which I've been driving for about 2 weeks, I can definitely say that I prefer the digital speedometer on my 2015 Leaf.
In the 2015 Leaf I know exactly what my speed is whereas on the old fashioned analog speedometer, I have to think sometimes what speed I'm at if I'm between numbers. I really do not understand why surveys would convince Nissan to go back to an Analog speedometer. Maybe these folks they were surveying never drove a car with a digital speedometer and only listed what they were familiar with (Analog).
I also can't understand why they would stick an ugly analog speedometer which doesn't even look like it fits there to the right of an all-digital instrument cluster. I would much rather have seen a full digital touch-screen instrument cluster - To me, that would be the ultimate status symbol in an all-electric car. Hoping Nissan gravitates to this in the next few years. If they had that, plus the 200+ mile battery, and a fully mature Pro-Pilot, I'd buy that car brand new in a heartbeat.
Tim
wtdedula said:Hi All;
I responded to this thread early but now after driving my 2015 Leaf for about 3 weeks, I'm going to add to my response. Nothing has changed since my initial response, except that I am even more pro-digital speedometer.
After coming from cars that exclusively had analog speedometers all my life and then coming to a Leaf which I've been driving for about 2 weeks, I can definitely say that I prefer the digital speedometer on my 2015 Leaf.
In the 2015 Leaf I know exactly what my speed is whereas on the old fashioned analog speedometer, I have to think sometimes what speed I'm at if I'm between numbers. I really do not understand why surveys would convince Nissan to go back to an Analog speedometer. Maybe these folks they were surveying never drove a car with a digital speedometer and only listed what they were familiar with (Analog).
I also can't understand why they would stick an ugly analog speedometer which doesn't even look like it fits there to the right of an all-digital instrument cluster. I would much rather have seen a full digital touch-screen instrument cluster - To me, that would be the ultimate status symbol in an all-electric car. Hoping Nissan gravitates to this in the next few years. If they had that, plus the 200+ mile battery, and a fully mature Pro-Pilot, I'd buy that car brand new in a heartbeat.
Tim
kevintylernelson said:...It's the same as looking at a digital watch, you know the time instantaneously. Maybe we should get rid of calculators too and go back to the abacus? Do you guys not hear yourself's, "I know what my speed is because the needle is in "X" position...". Analog gauges have ALWAYS been a guessing game when that needle moves from one of the preset numbers.
Nubo said:kevintylernelson said:...It's the same as looking at a digital watch, you know the time instantaneously. Maybe we should get rid of calculators too and go back to the abacus? Do you guys not hear yourself's, "I know what my speed is because the needle is in "X" position...". Analog gauges have ALWAYS been a guessing game when that needle moves from one of the preset numbers.
In that movement lies superior accuracy. As you drive along with a "45" on your digital display, you are bouncing somewhere between the guardrails of 44 and 46, with no clue as to the magnitude and direction of drift. By the time you notice a change, I've already corrected. It's clearly visible whether the needle is at 45, or even tenth higher or lower, and the magnitude of any drift is apparent. Digits may be reassuring for people of a certain age, but they are not necessarily superior for every task. This is coming from someone with a 40 year career in I.T..
Nubo said:kevintylernelson said:...It's the same as looking at a digital watch, you know the time instantaneously. Maybe we should get rid of calculators too and go back to the abacus? Do you guys not hear yourself's, "I know what my speed is because the needle is in "X" position...". Analog gauges have ALWAYS been a guessing game when that needle moves from one of the preset numbers.
In that movement lies superior accuracy. As you drive along with a "45" on your digital display, you are bouncing somewhere between the guardrails of 44 and 46, with no clue as to the magnitude and direction of drift. By the time you notice a change, I've already corrected. It's clearly visible whether the needle is at 45, or even tenth higher or lower, and the magnitude of any drift is apparent. Digits may be reassuring for people of a certain age, but they are not necessarily superior for every task. This is coming from someone with a 40 year career in I.T..
Nubo said:In that movement lies superior accuracy. As you drive along with a "45" on your digital display, you are bouncing somewhere between the guardrails of 44 and 46, with no clue as to the magnitude and direction of drift. By the time you notice a change, I've already corrected. It's clearly visible whether the needle is at 45, or even tenth higher or lower, and the magnitude of any drift is apparent. Digits may be reassuring for people of a certain age, but they are not necessarily superior for every task. This is coming from someone with a 40 year career in I.T..
desiv said:Got to drive the 2018 Leaf this weekend.
I must say. Nice car..
(Now, I'm still OK with my decision to go for a Bolt, but that was right for me..)
I really liked the dashboard driver's display, including the analog speedometer.
Maybe it's the old geezer in me (get off my lawn!!!), but I really liked the look, and it made me feel like I had a bit of a better feel for the acceleration and deceleration of the car...
If you get a chance to check out the new Leaf, you should...
desiv
wtdedula said:Hello All;
I initially contributed to this post when the 2018 Leaf was introduced with the silly analog speedometer among everythng else digital. After driving my used 2015 leaf for over 6 months now, I can definitely say that my opinion about Nissan's decision to put an Analog speedometer in the 2018 leaf hasn't changed. I can definitely say that I love knowing exactly what my speed is at a glance without having to interpolate between the markings on an analog dial.
Bottom line - I am not upgrading my 2015 Leaf until the new model gets rid of that old fashioned analog speedometer or offers both options - analog and digital. With new display panel technology, it is very easy to give the customer the option of an analog display or a digital display with the touch of a button.
Tim
.My previous LEAFs, the digital speedometer was nowhere near as accurate
Nissan has multiple ways to display the speed and they don't agree? :shock:DaveinOlyWA said:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XIG4h0VFq6VbXsNbYBspFqnPKlR3Acb_Lg/view?usp=sharing
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