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edatoakrun said:
The Note is still outselling the Prius:

Safer and lower emission cars boosted Nissan sales in Japan

...in the first quarter of the year, the Nissan Note jumped from 5th to first place – beating the Toyota Prius – and the Nissan Serena went from 10th to 5th – not very distant from the 4th.

Truth to be said, both the e-Power system and the ProPILOT technology are just small steps in the right direction of a zero-emissions, zero-fatality mobility....
http://pushevs.com/2017/05/01/safer-lower-emission-cars-boosted-nissan-sales-japan/

edatoakrun said:
...Any one else interested in a semi-autonomous Nissan truck or SUV equipped with e-Power and a ~30 kWh battery pack?
I want a 4wd truck, no need for an on-board charger.

Hmm lower price and better acceleration, go figure
 
Has anyone else noticed that there is a hell of a lot of empty space under the 2018 LEAF's hood, if you just remove the 12 V battery?

IMO, It would be a welcome surprise if Nissan was also to announced at the Tokyo show an optional e-POWER generator AND a ~40 kWh pack in the upcoming LEAF-based SUV.

Anyway, it could be more likely Nissan will introduce e-POWER in the USA in the Serena, rather than the Note.

Nissan introducing second non-plug-in e-POWER series-hybrid model: Serena e-POWER

24 October 2017

Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. will unveil the Nissan Serena e-POWER, a new version of the popular minivan featuring the company’s e-POWER electric drive system (earlier post), at this year’s Tokyo Motor Show. The Serena e-POWER will be Nissan’s second model to feature the technology.

e-POWER borrows from the EV technology in the Nissan LEAF. Unlike the all-battery-electric powertrain of the LEAF, e-POWER adds a small gasoline engine to charge the small, high-output battery when necessary, eliminating the need for an external charger while offering the same high-output...
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2017/10/20171024-serena.html

Press release:

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/release-1fc537356ae3aaf048d0201b770003d6-171024-01-e
 
edatoakrun said:
Has anyone else noticed that there is a hell of a lot of empty space under the 2018 LEAF's hood, if you just remove the 12 V battery?

IMO, It would be a welcome surprise if Nissan was also to announced at the Tokyo show an optional e-POWER generator AND a ~40 kWh pack in the upcoming LEAF-based SUV

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/release-1fc537356ae3aaf048d0201b770003d6-171024-01-e

I think we can all agree on that,
All current PHEVs either optimize for range -or- fuel economy

if they optimize for great fuel economy and good range they will have a winner.

Long range BEV SUVs currently don't make any economical or resource sense at the moment
but a good stopgap is a BEV + a simple, small, efficient genset to get the SUV buying public a logical option to enter the electrified future
 
Interesting...

NISSAN'S Z-CAR FUTURE COULD BE IN JEOPARDY

If you, like us, are waiting for a replacement to the aging 370Z, you might want to brace yourself.

Talking to CarAdvice, Nissan's chief planning officer Philipe Klein has admitted that while there is "a lot of passion behind this vehicle... at the same time it is a segment that is gradually declining, making the case more difficult.

"We have no intention to quit excitement, but we're going to make it happen in different ways."...

CarAdvice quotes Hideyuki Sakamoto, the executive vice president of product engineering for Nissan, as saying: "GT-R and Z cars are our symbol so we want to launch a new vehicle. We are now studying utilisation of e-power to create more aggression."...
http://www.autocar.co.nz/autocar-news-app/nissans-z-car-future-could-be-in-jeopardy

I think the e-power + battery pack works primarily as a AWD truck/SUV drive-train, but it could save a lot of development costs to also drop it into a low-volume GT.
 
I saw this at Tokyo Motor Show and Nissan HQ in Yokohama. Was surprised that it has the same basic gearshift mechanism as the Leaf. See https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/note/exterior_interior.html.

I guess that's one way to help get economies of scale on the Leaf's shifter. Also, notice the steering wheel's similarity to 2018 Leaf.

A minivan (Serena e-Power) was also introduced at TMS: https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/releases/171024-01-e.
 
NISSAN VERSA NOTE PLUG-IN MAY GET ADDED TO THE U.S. LINEUP

Is Nissan moving forward with plans to juice its lineup of electrified vehicles in the U.S.?

New spy photos show the Versa Note e-Power hybrid undergoing road tests in Michigan alongside a Japan-market, right-hand-drive Note e-Power, a Toyota Prius C and a BMW i3.

The Note e-Power has a series hybrid propulsion system similar to that of the Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid. The 1.2-liter 3-cylinder engine isn't connected to the wheels, but charges an internal battery pack powering an electric motor...
Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/rumormill/get-ready-nissan-versa-note-e-power-maybe#ixzz4z5fFvvIf
 
LeftieBiker said:
I see nothing there to indicate anything other than the website not understanding that the Note E-Power isn't a plugin hybrid.
Headline of article:
"Nissan Versa Note plug-in may get added to the U.S. lineup"
Later they say:
"But unlike the Volt, the Note e-Power forgoes plug-in charging; it relies solely on the gasoline engine to charge and power the electric motor"
What F'in morons :roll:
Oh and whats up with that, no plug in.....whats the point of a vehicle like that? I mean I can understand something like a Prius hybrid, great MPG on gas and extra HP with it's small electric motor and battery. I can also understand something like a PIP, Prime or Volt, plug in for the first miles in pure EV, no gas consumption. What I don't understand is why go through the losses of having a gas generator charge a battery and not being able to recharge the battery off the grid, I just don't understand the point!
I looked but didn't see anything about the size of the battery, I wonder if it's tiny like a regular Prius, therefore they'd have little to gain by plugging it in......if so I can't believe it would approach the MPG of something like a direct drive(ICE to wheels) Prius, got to be losses in having a gas engine just charge a battery and then having the battery power the engine. Sure the Volt is that way, but I always thought that explained the Volt's so-so gas only mileage.
 
The Prius PHEV gets better fuel economy then the regular Prius even if never charged externally - the larger capacity of the battery allows for more energy storage from braking and from low-demand driving, resulting in higher overall efficiency. The E-Power system does the same thing.
 
jjeff said:
What I don't understand is why go through the losses of having a gas generator charge a battery and not being able to recharge the battery off the grid, I just don't understand the point!
I looked but didn't see anything about the size of the battery, I wonder if it's tiny like a regular Prius, therefore they'd have little to gain by plugging it in......if so I can't believe it would approach the MPG of something like a direct drive(ICE to wheels) Prius.

Based on the Japanese to EPA MPG conversion this car gets around 40mpg.

Done correctly this car should get very high city fuel economy, which will be offset by poor highway, unless of coarse their motor inside a generator series config eCVT can exceed 90% efficiency.

The reason for this car is that a $12000 MSRP Hybrid does not exist and this will help Nissan remove their faulty standard CVT XMSN off the market.

This car sells on price and speed, nothing else, nothing more

And the battery is tiny, fits under the seat and holds about 1kwhr usable.

The American version specs are likely to change, if and when it comes stateside

This car should be a no brained for city dwellers and may help mainstream hybrids moving them from a minority to a majority of the car market
 
Based on the Japanese to EPA MPG conversion this car gets around 40mpg.

Done correctly this car should get very high city fuel economy, which will be offset by poor highway, unless of coarse their motor inside a generator series config eCVT can exceed 90% efficiency.

Can you do a city cycle conversion? This reminds me of the Honda Fit, which I looked at and drove - until I realized that the larger Civic actually got substantially better highway fuel economy...
 
LeftieBiker said:
Based on the Japanese to EPA MPG conversion this car gets around 40mpg.

Done correctly this car should get very high city fuel economy, which will be offset by poor highway, unless of coarse their motor inside a generator series config eCVT can exceed 90% efficiency.

Can you do a city cycle conversion? This reminds me of the Honda Fit, which I looked at and drove - until I realized that the larger Civic actually got substantially better highway fuel economy...
Beats me how rmay635703 is doing a conversion... I guess one can try to extrapolate based upon what other vehicles get on Japanese test cycles vs. US EPA mileage.

I ran https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/note/specifications.html thru Google translate and it seems some version e-Power note gets 34.0 km per liter on the Japanese JC08 cycle which would translate into 79.973 miles per US gallon. Another version (?) says 37.2 km/L --> 87.5 miles per US gallon.

For gen 4 Prius, I'm seeing 37.2 to 40.8 km/L at http://toyota.jp/prius/grade/?padid=ag341.jpprius_grade or 87.5 or 95.97 miles per US gallon. I assume this would correspond to the regular vs. Eco version of the gen 4 Prius which get combined US EPA test results of 52 and 56 mpg (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38061&id=38062).
 
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/11/nissan-looks-ready-to-bring-e-power-to-its-american-fleet.html suggests that Nissan might bring e-Power to the US.

If so, some have suggested this would be one way of sidestepping CVTs that Nissan's been so fond of using. I've heard numerous anecdotal reports that the CVTs Nissan uses are of questionable reliability. Unfortunately, it's not like Nissan would really want to use CVTs from anyone other that Jatco since Nissan owns 75% of them per https://www.jatco.co.jp/english/company/profile.html. One can see which vehicles use which CVT model at https://www.jatco.co.jp/english/products/.
 
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/01/nissan-confirms-e-power-north-american-vehicles/

Epower edges closer
 
rmay635703 said:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/01/nissan-confirms-e-power-north-american-vehicles/

Epower edges closer
... executives are suggesting the technology will initially arrive on higher-priced nameplates.

That’s interesting, considering our initial assumption would be that e-Power would first see active duty on already economical models. Nissan also already has the aforementioned Note with a fully functional 1.2-liter humming at a constant 2,500 rpm to feed its electric power-source — and the system has garnered mostly positive reviews on the global scene. But Philippe Klein, the automaker’s chief planning officer, told Automotive News the U.S. would probably see it on more expensive models that can more easily absorb the added cost of the powertrain first.

“Our strategy is to expand to other vehicles and to other markets,” Klein said. “It’s not only for small vehicles. We’re going to go to bigger vehicles.”...
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/01/nissan-confirms-e-power-north-american-vehicles/

Which suggests either a larger (than 1.2 liter) ICE, or preferably a grid-chargable larger battery pack.

Still looking forward to that half-ton 4WD e-Power with a 20 available kWh pack BEVx pick-up truck.
 
https://reports.nissan-global.com/EN/?p=18893
The Nissan Note took the No. 1 spot in Japan’s new car sales rankings for January, as the popularity of the e-POWER electrified powertrain helped make the model the best-selling compact car in the country, Nissan announced today.
...
The e-POWER version of the Note has been a hit in Japan since it was introduced in November 2016, with sales reaching more than 100,000 vehicles in the first 11 months.
Nissan Note is #1 at http://www.jada.or.jp/contents/data/ranking.html. One can run it thru https://translate.google.com to decipher it or have Chrome translate it for you (one may need to right click on the page in Chrome).
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2018/02/16/new-nissan-leaf-spotted-testing-alongside-nismo-note-e-power/amp/

https://www.motoring.com.au/nissan-note-e-power-2018-review-111177/

Interesting what kind of trucks the aussies figure will get epower
 
Looks like they launched another gen of Note e-Power.

(From Nov 23, 2020)
Nissan launches all-new Note in Japan
Offered exclusively with an electrified powertrain, the new Note demonstrates Nissan’s focus on core models and electrification under its transformation plan
https://global.nissannews.com/en/releases/201124-01-e

Interestingly, the electric motor model of this one is EM47, not EM57. EM57 has been used on 2013 and beyond Leafs, so far.
 
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