edatoakrun wrote:Over 600 posts, WTF ???
SageBrush wrote:edatoakrun wrote:Over 600 posts, WTF ???
That is what happens when ~ half a million people are on the edge of their seats waiting for their cars. Any piece of news gets thrown into the echo chamber. Why, it even spills over to other car forums.
webb14leafs wrote:lorenfb wrote:mtndrew1 wrote:
I think I found the first statement of yours I agree with.
The S and X will need a comprehensive refresh soon to bring them up to par with (or exceed) the baked-in newness of the 3. The touchscreen hardware, door cards, navigation software, etc all need to be refreshed sooner than later.
If they do it this quarter then the freshened cars already likely started production and are being loaded for the slow trip overseas like they did when the S got a refresh in ‘16. As Tesla delivers cars in the US at the end of a given quarter it gives them time to unload inventory and finalize transactions for cars built to the previous spec. It’s one of the few logistical things Tesla does well.
The issue then becomes how to effectively differentiate the two, i.e. a facelift of the MS won't do it alone.
Given how well they kept the new roadster under wraps, I wouldn't be surprised if a newly design MS is presented in the next six months.
...There are skills that Tesla still hasn’t mastered. Our Model 3’s turn signals blinked unsteadily and far too fast, like it was one incandescent bulb short of a complete circuit (Tesla says this was fixed with a software update after we returned the car). One DRL was notably dimmer than the other. Body panel gaps, particularly around the doors, were gaping and inconsistent; the paint showed a few sags and one spot of mismatched hue on the driver’s door. There’s a deep irony here: Tesla assembles its cars in what used to be known as New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc., or NUMMI, a factory once jointly-operated by GM and Toyota in an effort to teach Japanese quality control and tight tolerances to American autoworkers...
mtndrew1 wrote:...It was also a phenomenally stupid way to implement the change on Tesla’s part. “Woven textile headliner, late availability” on the Model 3 configurator would have mitigated the whole thing.
I’d prefer Alcantara but don’t care that much overall. I would, however, like to know what my car will be equipped with when I give them the next $2,500. Surprises are bad for optics.
edatoakrun wrote:[If so, TSLA may have another major problem.
Road & Track wrote:Out on the road, the Model 3 feels special. There’s an eagerness to the car. Steering, acceleration and chassis are nearly perfectly balanced, no one trait overpowering the others.
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It’s the kind of friendly, engaging drive that could make anyone excited to slide behind the wheel. Hustling the Model 3 is rewarding and un-demanding. This isn’t a car you drive with an iron grip and dilated pupils. It’s playful, charming, involved without demanding sacrifices in comfort or usability.
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The Model 3 feels like it hails from a decade in the future. It redefines the scope, painting the Model S as the halfway point between conventional cars and the capital-F Future.
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Both vehicles were solid, silent, and substantial. ...the cars felt complete, well-engineered, cohesive in philosophy and design.
drees wrote:edatoakrun wrote:[If so, TSLA may have another major problem.
Hey look, I can cherry pick quotes, too!Road & Track wrote:Out on the road, the Model 3 feels special. There’s an eagerness to the car. Steering, acceleration and chassis are nearly perfectly balanced, no one trait overpowering the others.
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It’s the kind of friendly, engaging drive that could make anyone excited to slide behind the wheel. Hustling the Model 3 is rewarding and un-demanding. This isn’t a car you drive with an iron grip and dilated pupils. It’s playful, charming, involved without demanding sacrifices in comfort or usability.
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The Model 3 feels like it hails from a decade in the future. It redefines the scope, painting the Model S as the halfway point between conventional cars and the capital-F Future.
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Both vehicles were solid, silent, and substantial. ...the cars felt complete, well-engineered, cohesive in philosophy and design.
Seriously though - the endless bashing of Tesla from Ed and Loren is pretty damn tiring.
drees wrote:Seriously though - the endless bashing of Tesla from Ed and Loren is pretty damn tiring.