lorenfb
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Re: Leaf revival

Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:02 am

SageBrush wrote:
GerryAZ wrote:
Evoforce wrote:Just remember, if your car is out of warranty, a replacement traction battery comes with only a 12 month/12,000 mile warranty.


According to the information I have read from Nissan, purchasing a new traction battery gets you a new warranty (8 years, 100,000 miles for defects and 5 years, 60,000 miles for capacity).

I would very much like to see that warranty.


That's very critical. It's likely that Nissan will treat a battery warranty replacement just as it does for any replacement part, i.e. one year.
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SageBrush
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Re: Leaf revival

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:45 pm

lorenfb wrote:
SageBrush wrote:I would very much like to see that warranty.


That's very critical.

Are you using 'critical' to mean important or another meaning ?
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lorenfb
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Re: Leaf revival

Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:55 pm

SageBrush wrote:
lorenfb wrote:
SageBrush wrote:I would very much like to see that warranty.


That's very critical.

Are you using 'critical' to mean important or another meaning ?


Sorry for not being more explicit, but that aspect of buying a replacement Leaf battery must be clearly defined, i.e. the warranty period
and determination procedure to be used to determine the battery's failure, must be defined on the part's estimate prior to one's purchase
and on the purchase invoice at payment time.
Leaf SL MY 9/13: 66K miles, 50 Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=78, L2 charges to 100% > 1000, max battery temp < 95F (35C), min discharge point > 20 Ahrs

Evoforce
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:24 pm

Unless Nissan has changed their traction battery replacement warranty, that is what I was quoted on a 24 kWh battery. 12 month/12,000 miles on a new 24 kWh traction battery replacement. If it has changed, or is different for larger sizes, I would like to know...
*2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi @ 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.
*Tesla Model S 61,000 mi
*2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 mi) Now 35,485 mi

cmwade77
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:21 pm

SageBrush wrote:
GerryAZ wrote:
Evoforce wrote:Just remember, if your car is out of warranty, a replacement traction battery comes with only a 12 month/12,000 mile warranty.


According to the information I have read from Nissan, purchasing a new traction battery gets you a new warranty (8 years, 100,000 miles for defects and 5 years, 60,000 miles for capacity).

I would very much like to see that warranty. It sure would make the $6k battery cost more palatable.

If you buy a replacement battery for cash, it has to come with the same warranty as a new battery under the law. I believe this is a federal law, but it is possible it is a California law. The same is true of any replacement part you purchase from a car manufacturer. The only time they can provide less of a warranty is if they are giving you a replacement under the warranty, but the new warranty period cannot be less than the remainder of the original warranty period plus the time you were without the vehicle.

Now, if you install it yourself or have someone else beside the dealer install it, they do not have to provide a warranty on the labor and if faulty labor damages the part then they are not responsible. But otherwise if you purchase a new part, you get a new warranty. This is also printed on the back of every single repair receipt you get from a Nissan Dealership.

And yes, if you look through various threads on here and do a google search, ypu will see that you do get the same warranty as a brand new battery when you spend the $6,000. Now the trick is not every dealership is knowledgeable about EVs and warranties, so you do need to do your homework and make sure they give you the proper warranty in writting.

cmwade77
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:23 pm

Evoforce wrote:Unless Nissan has changed their traction battery replacement warranty, that is what I was quoted on a 24 kWh battery. 12 month/12,000 miles on a new 24 kWh traction battery replacement. If it has changed, or is different for larger sizes, I would like to know...

That would violate the law, purchasing a new part means the part must come with a warranty equal to or greater than the original part. This is on the back of every single service contract from Nissan Dealerships. As I said in my last post.

cmwade77
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:26 pm

Here is a good article that talks about this:
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... ook/page-3

You can clearly see at the end of the article that you get a new warranty equal to the original warranty.

SageBrush
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:59 pm

I'll believe it when I see the warranty in print from Nissan.
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SageBrush
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:01 pm

cmwade77 wrote:
Evoforce wrote:Unless Nissan has changed their traction battery replacement warranty, that is what I was quoted on a 24 kWh battery. 12 month/12,000 miles on a new 24 kWh traction battery replacement. If it has changed, or is different for larger sizes, I would like to know...

That would violate the law, purchasing a new part means the part must come with a warranty equal to or greater than the original part. This is on the back of every single service contract from Nissan Dealerships. As I said in my last post.

I don't think that means what you think it means.

The wording protects your original warranty duration even if a repair is done. E.g., if you start with a 3 year bumper to bumper warranty on a new car and the engine dies the next day, the replacement engine will be warranted to no less than 3 years minus a day. If the replacement engine carries a one year warranty, that year will extend your protection if the original engine died sometime after the second year from car purchase has elapsed.

In short, the repair does not shorten your original protection.
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2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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cmwade77
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Re: Leaf revival

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:05 pm

SageBrush wrote:
cmwade77 wrote:
Evoforce wrote:Unless Nissan has changed their traction battery replacement warranty, that is what I was quoted on a 24 kWh battery. 12 month/12,000 miles on a new 24 kWh traction battery replacement. If it has changed, or is different for larger sizes, I would like to know...

That would violate the law, purchasing a new part means the part must come with a warranty equal to or greater than the original part. This is on the back of every single service contract from Nissan Dealerships. As I said in my last post.

I don't think that means what you think it means.

A really, it is indeed very clear and exactly as I stated.

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