golfcart
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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:10 pm

SageBrush wrote:
I'm in your position too since I own one 0.5x vehicle and one 1.0x vehicle, and the arrangement works very well for us. The difference is that I paid $6,300 for my 0.5x (EV) vehicle so I was comfortable paying more for my no compromise EV.
It is what it is, we need a second car and I want an EV. I've got a 60ish mile round trip commute and a kid with activities so the 24kWh Leaf wasn't cutting it anymore. If I want an EV this was the best deal I found.


I'm not sure what else to say, a "no compromise" EV for an extra $10k - $15k wouldn't be any more functional for me. Even if I got a Tesla or Bolt we'd still take the Outlander PHEV on road trips...

I saw you edited your comment quite a bit since I responded so I'll clarify one last point. My wife wanted a small SUV with AWD and we spent $23k net after incentives ($29k OTD - $58xx tax credit) for the Outlander at 0% for 60 months and it includes one of the best bumper to bumper warranties in the industry. If I buy the 2018 Leaf residual I'll be all in $24k. Our state doesn't offer EV incentives so we are $47k all in (including financing and sales tax) if I end up buying the lease on the Leaf (I'm 50/50 right now we'll see in 3 years). So I got 2 2018 model year cars for the cost of your Tesla + old Leaf , my wife gets the car she actually wants, and I get a car that I really like.

I also don't think your TM3 gets 300 miles of range in 15 minutes I suspect it is closer to 200 and those upgraded stations aren't that common yet. The Outlander gets 300 miles of range in under 2 minutes and there are gas stations everywhere. I used the Tesla Trip Planner (which they only allow LR for the TM3 so it paints a rosier picture than reality) for a typical trip we take from Norfolk to Atlanta. The planner says 11hr for the LR TM3 but we make it in 8.5hr in our Outlander. Not to mention there are gas stations at every exit and major intersection once we get there and we don't have to find a supercharger or ask our relatives to install a destination charger just for us.

We do over 90% of our miles electric between the Leaf and Outlander PHEV, if you wanna kill me over the last 10% that's your perogative but it seems kind of silly.

Anyways... We're kind of getting off topic here this thread is about deals on Leaf. I'm glad you like your Tesla but you are not everybody and some of us make different decisions even if you don't think they are optimal ones. You don't have to like the decisions we made but we're comfortable with them.
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eplus

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:07 am

golfcart wrote:There are some great deals to lease right now, I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on a 2018 SV with All Weather and Tech Packages. Roughly $11k net for 36 months (including taxes and fees) and then a $13.4k residual if I want to buy it or I'll have the option to walk away clean.
1. Is it similar for 2019 40 kWh?
2. Are you seeing a lot of 2018s on lots?

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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:11 am

golfcart wrote: I saw you edited your comment quite a bit since I responded so I'll clarify one last point. My wife wanted a small SUV with AWD and we spent $23k net after incentives ($29k OTD - $58xx tax credit) for the Outlander at 0% for 60 months
Now that sounds like excellent value !

I saw $37k msrp on the Mitsu website and jumped to conclusions. Although I do not want an ICE car at all (and dumped my Prius Prime PHEV to get there), I completely agree with you that 80% electric is darned good. Are you 80% electric miles or 80% carbon reduction or 80% oil reduction ? I was already 80% oil and carbon reduction with my PHEV and LEAF compared to the Honda Fit and Prius we had before so swapping out the Prime for our Tesla was much more a political vote and personal preference rather than one that had much immediate community and societal consequences. We swapped when the cost approached break-even over the presumed lifetime of the cars.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
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golfcart
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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:45 am

SageBrush wrote:
golfcart wrote: I saw you edited your comment quite a bit since I responded so I'll clarify one last point. My wife wanted a small SUV with AWD and we spent $23k net after incentives ($29k OTD - $58xx tax credit) for the Outlander at 0% for 60 months
Now that sounds like excellent value !

I saw $37k msrp on the Mitsu website and jumped to conclusions. Although I do not want an ICE car at all (and dumped my Prius Prime PHEV to get there), I completely agree with you that 80% electric is darned good. Are you 80% electric miles or 80% carbon reduction or 80% oil reduction ? I was already 80% oil and carbon reduction with my PHEV and LEAF compared to the Honda Fit and Prius we had before so swapping out the Prime for our Tesla was much more a political vote and personal preference rather than one that had much immediate community and societal consequences. We swapped when the cost approached break-even over the presumed lifetime of the cars.
I'm a tough negotiator LOL. Especially when they have cars on the lot that they cant unload.

I dunno about carbon and oil but she does 70% of her driving (including road trips) electric and I do 100% of mine. Since I drive more miles it has worked out to 90% of our driving on electricity since September when she bought it. I picked up that 2018 SV w/ all weather + tech lease on my lunch break today, I am excited it is a big upgrade from my 2015 S.
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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:47 am

eplus wrote:
golfcart wrote:There are some great deals to lease right now, I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on a 2018 SV with All Weather and Tech Packages. Roughly $11k net for 36 months (including taxes and fees) and then a $13.4k residual if I want to buy it or I'll have the option to walk away clean.
1. Is it similar for 2019 40 kWh?
2. Are you seeing a lot of 2018s on lots?
It is almost identical to the 2019. This was the last 2018 in my area but there is a dealer in Richmond VA with a few.

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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:06 pm

Looking to lease my 3rd leaf.
2019 SV with Gross capital (incl 595 destination charge) : 30465
gross cap reduction : 10936
Residual: 39%
Money factor: 0.00258
State: CA
3K down comes to 274 / mo
How is this deal?

I have leased 2 Leafs before and now planning to lease 2019 40KW leaf again.
The money factor now is ridiculous. in last two leases I had 0.00003 money factor (effectively 0.07APR) which is $0.96 and $1.24 per month in lease charges. However, now with 0.00258 (Effectively 6.1APR) it is $85.03 per month in lease charges. WTH is nissan doing? they don't want loyal users to lease again?
i am looking to lease 2019 SV , 36 mon, 12K miles

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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:19 pm

What is the actual dollar value of the residual? (I'm very tired tonight.) If it's below $16k then you have a pretty good deal. If it's much lower, then you should consider trading a higher residual for a lower payment if you don't strongly plan to keep the car.
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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:48 am

Here in SoCal, the best a Nissan dealer will offer on a '19 SV no Pro (list $35K) was; Down - $3K, $350/mo, 3 yrs, $16K residual.
My best offer was for $250/mo. The Nissan finance manager indicated Nissan Credit wouldn't accept the deal, so I walked.
The dealer indicated that the $7.5K fed credit was applied. Are others finding better deals?
#1 Leaf SL MY 9/13: 74K miles, 48 Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=78, L2 - 100% > 1000, temp < 95F, (DOD) > 20 Ahrs
#2 Leaf SL MY 12/18: 4.5K miles, 115 Ahrs, 5.5 miles/kWh (average), Hx=98, SOH=99, DOD > 20%, temp < 105F

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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:48 am

prash1111 wrote:Looking to lease my 3rd leaf.
2019 SV with Gross capital (incl 595 destination charge) : 30465
gross cap reduction : 10936
Residual: 39%
Money factor: 0.00258
State: CA
3K down comes to 274 / mo
How is this deal?

i am looking to lease 2019 SV , 36 mon, 12K miles
You are not going to get a "deal" on a car that is just now arriving on the dealer lots. If the past is a guide you have to wait ~ 3-6 months into the MY.

I think some people have extended their current leases to buy time although I do not have any personal experience leasing.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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lorenfb
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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:11 am

SageBrush wrote: You are not going to get a "deal" on a car that is just now arriving on the dealer lots. If the past is a guide you have to wait ~ 3-6 months into the MY.
Or later when Nissan U.S. realizes that the 2019 models won't sell much better than the 2018s, i.e. about 1300/mo, even with more range.
#1 Leaf SL MY 9/13: 74K miles, 48 Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=78, L2 - 100% > 1000, temp < 95F, (DOD) > 20 Ahrs
#2 Leaf SL MY 12/18: 4.5K miles, 115 Ahrs, 5.5 miles/kWh (average), Hx=98, SOH=99, DOD > 20%, temp < 105F

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