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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 10:04 am

OrientExpress wrote:...
The real story is that long-distance travel for any BEV, TMS or non-TMS equipped, is still just like road trips from the 1950s and 60s. Road trips from that era and for modern BEVs is slow and full of surprises.

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Speak for yourself. My road trips in a BEV have been less tiring and easier than those I used to take in ICE vehicles 6 years ago.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 10:07 am

This is the story of a 1200 mile journey taken in what’s basically the wrong car for the job.


I'm about to take a 16 mile journey in what is probably the right car for the job. A 2014 LEAF.

First, from home to a seafood shop that has high quality fish and oysters.
Nest to a supermarket to buy salad fixings. And lemons.
Then to home to consume said fish and oysters with family and friends. With a nice salad, grilled veggies, and some sweet corn. Oh, and consume the lemons with the fish and oysters.

Sounds more fun that sitting in a car for hours and hours.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 12:17 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
nrvous wrote:The 2018 Leaf S shows the charging rate on the dash display while charging.

webeleafowners wrote:So, how does he/she know what the charge rate is. We have a 2016. I haven’t seen a menu setting that allows me to see that. Is it something specific to the 2018 and newer vehicles?

Thanks.


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Awww cmon. How cool is that. :)
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 12:49 pm

Zythryn wrote: My road trips in a BEV have been less tiring and easier than those I used to take in ICE vehicles 6 years ago.


Now here is a man that agrees with me 100%. He has the patience, knows the issues, and is chill with a BEV road trip anyway.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 2:10 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
Zythryn wrote: My road trips in a BEV have been less tiring and easier than those I used to take in ICE vehicles 6 years ago.


Now here is a man that agrees with me 100%. He has the patience, knows the issues, and is chill with a BEV road trip anyway.


Did your notice the other vehicle besides his old Leaf? Surely his implication for taking a "BEV road trip" was NOT with a Leaf.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 2:16 pm

nrvous wrote:The 2018 Leaf S shows the charging rate on the dash display while charging.



Only for QCing and not while L1/L2, with vehicle in off mode, right?
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 2:25 pm

OrientExpress wrote:
Zythryn wrote: My road trips in a BEV have been less tiring and easier than those I used to take in ICE vehicles 6 years ago.


Now here is a man that agrees with me 100%. He has the patience, knows the issues, and is chill with a BEV road trip anyway.


Not quite. Our trips were not slow, and had no car related surprises. Some BEVs require very little planning. If you had left it at the Leaf, I wouldn't have disagreed.
But when you painted ALL BEVs with such a broad brush, I had to take note.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 2:30 pm

lorenfb wrote:
OrientExpress wrote:
Zythryn wrote: My road trips in a BEV have been less tiring and easier than those I used to take in ICE vehicles 6 years ago.


Now here is a man that agrees with me 100%. He has the patience, knows the issues, and is chill with a BEV road trip anyway.


Did your notice the other vehicle besides his old Leaf? Surely his implication for taking a "BEV road trip" was NOT with a Leaf.

OE sure walked into that one.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 4:29 pm

Zythryn wrote:But when you painted ALL BEVs with such a broad brush, I had to take note.


Yes, I did, because it’s the reality of the times. Of course, there is always a Tesla owner that will always object.

But it doesn’t change the fact that ALL BEVs including Tesla’s are marginal long distance personal transportation.

And that won’t change until a BEV can meet or beat the 80/400/30/30 rule.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Sun May 05, 2019 5:32 pm

OrientExpress wrote:...The only issue here is that the situation that the author dwells on and makes the central thesis of the article (Slow than desired charging) is essentially limited to less than a thousand LEAFs in the US...


Rapidgate is simply inexcusable and confounding from the company that had the solid first-mover advantage and should have learned much about EVs and EV customers in general, and particularly from their own mistakes, which all centered around THE BATTERY!

I can't give them a pass because of the "small number" of affected vehicles. They would have sold a lot more if not for their mis-handling of battery issues for years. That the public was smart enough to avoid a problem car doesn't absolve Nissan of chronically ignoring the realities of EV driving in the United States.
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