Lothsahn
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Tue May 07, 2019 8:47 am

jbuntz wrote:The battery easily outlasts my bladder and the Tesla Superchargers have not let me down.


As a non-Tesla owner, I was wondering... do the supercharger stations all have restrooms or food nearby? As a family, we frequently drive cross country (900 miles), so while the supercharger rate is fast, the ability to eat or use the restroom while charging is essential. How do you handle that?

Also, how many hotels do you see with adequate L2 charging? We typically take one stop along the way, which means that charging overnight at the hotel would be key.
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Tue May 07, 2019 9:39 am

Lothsahn wrote:As a non-Tesla owner, I was wondering... do the supercharger stations all have restrooms or food nearby? As a family, we frequently drive cross country (900 miles), so while the supercharger rate is fast, the ability to eat or use the restroom while charging is essential. How do you handle that?
Generally (at least my experience with 50+ SuC locations across the NorthEast), SuC do not have their own facilities, but are are located near restrooms and other facilities. The restrooms might be anywhere from a 1-5 minute walk away. It really varies from SuC location to location.

The in-car nav does a great job of telling you where to go and how long to stop. It also lists all the amenities nearby the SuC. This same data is available on Tesla's website (for example).

According to TeslaFi, my average SuC stop is 25 minutes in my S (which has a slower max SuC charge rate of 99kW because of the smaller battery). When we are on a trip, we usually spend the first 10 or so minutes of a stop using the restroom. We then usually walk until the car tells us it has enough range to continue our trip. We rarely have enough time to stop and eat; maybe max of once per trip and maybe only on about half the trips. We're cheap, so we usually bring sandwiches with us and eat at a picnic table.

Lothsahn wrote:Also, how many hotels do you see with adequate L2 charging? We typically take one stop along the way, which means that charging overnight at the hotel would be key.
For this we usually use PlugShare, since that has a superset of all the data.
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jbuntz
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Tue May 07, 2019 10:42 am

OrientExpress wrote:Thanks for your observations. Many of your fellow Tesla Drivers do not share them, but some do.


Here is an example of how a BEV road trip should be.


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05/17 12 05175 324 70.75 89
08/17 11 09245 282 61.68 77
10/17 10 12000 260 57.22 71
01/18 09 15329 244 53.72 68
06/20 08 21716 230 50.41 63
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Tue May 07, 2019 11:33 am

jbuntz wrote:Here is an example of how a BEV road trip should be.


I've done that trip like this one many times over the years, almost all interstates, set the cruise control and watch the scenery fly by. I find it interesting that today the definition of a road trip is just that, driving the Interstate system.

You won't find many BEV road trip stories that use state, or US business route highways and secondary roads to take a classic road trip, simply because it really isn't for the faint of heart.

A real road trip is where if you see something interesting, you can just pull over, (or just stop in the middle of the road) and check it out. Perhaps someday, but not today.
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powersurge
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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Wed May 08, 2019 6:18 am

OrientExpress wrote:
jbuntz wrote:Here is an example of how a BEV road trip should be.


I've done that trip like this one many times over the years, almost all interstates, set the cruise control and watch the scenery fly by. I find it interesting that today the definition of a road trip is just that, driving the Interstate system.

You won't find many BEV road trip stories that use state, or US business route highways and secondary roads to take a classic road trip, simply because it really isn't for the faint of heart.

A real road trip is where if you see something interesting, you can just pull over, (or just stop in the middle of the road) and check it out. Perhaps someday, but not today.


fully agreed.... My best road trips are the ones that you have to travel between towns in a one-lane each way... I Love upstate NY for that...

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Re: 1200 Mile Trip in the 2018 LEAF

Wed May 08, 2019 7:01 am

Lothsahn wrote:Also, how many hotels do you see with adequate L2 charging? We typically take one stop along the way, which means that charging overnight at the hotel would be key.

How many do you want ?

Joking aside, my review of Tesla destination chargers was that they tend to be installed at expensive places. I'm not going to spend 200+ USD for a hotel room just to charge so that network does not really figure into my travel plans. I do appreciate its existence though since I view it the same as RV parks: an emergency backup. These hotels almost always restrict charging to 'patrons,' but that is not limited to overnight stays. Paying for any of their services (food, e.g) typically qualifies.
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