Jerryr
Posts: 53
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am
Delivery Date: 14 May 2018
Leaf Number: 307113

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Sat May 11, 2019 7:11 pm

I did it. Traded in both the 2018 SV and 2018 Focus for a 2019 SL PLUS White/Black 2 tone.

Made the deal in the phone negotiating between 2 dealerships. Negotiated $3100 off the $44,920 Leaf SV Plus MSRP and negotiated a few thousand more for trades.

I once again I get to apply the $7500 tax credit next April. That’s the only credits available in Florida.

I’ve had Leaf Spy but didn’t use it on the new Leaf.

Drove the 38 miles home from the dealership and used 37 miles of range per the GOM, at 70 MPH. At 70 MPH the GOM was showing average 3.6 miles per kW. Arrived home with 162 miles range remaining after starting with 199 miles of range after a 25 mile test ride.

Good news is I own it outright with no lien and one less car insurance and tag renewal bills.

It has light gray almost white leather. WIFE LIKES IT! I can get in and out with no problems just like our 18 SV.
2019 SL Plus 5/19- current
2018 SV w/tech and All Weather pkg 5/18-4/19 (traded)
2015 SL 4/15-5/18 (traded)
2019 Ford F-350 Lariat Ultimate CCSB SRW Diesel
2015 Lexus RX450h
2017 Grand Design RV 337RLS 5th wheel

Jerryr
Posts: 53
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am
Delivery Date: 14 May 2018
Leaf Number: 307113

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Sat May 11, 2019 7:34 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Jerryr wrote:We test drove a Tesla Model 3. I have the same issue getting in and out of the Tesla. I hit my head on the door opening and have to bend my neck uncomfortably. I’m in my early 70’s and 6’ 250 lbs.

I’ll probably take another look at Tesla.

I would. If I had size problems I would focus on used Model S and dump the LEAF and Focus
Or perhaps dump the Focus and Lexus and keep a Model S and LEAF


I looked at used and new Tesla Model S’s they start at $39k and early model year used ones were $60k+. Tesla is sneaky. When you go to price it they deduct the $3,750 tax credit and the estimated gas savings. So when you go to check out is shows cost and what you pay around $10,000 more. They want $6,000 for autopilot, $1,000-$1,500 extra for most paint choices other than black. Black doesn’t work fir me especially in sunny Florida.

I’ve owned 2 Leafs. The only problem I’ve had is one tire with a soft spot causing a vibration at 65 mph which was replaced under warranty.

Now I have to install a 50 amp 14-50R receptacle at the cabin. I have an unused L14-30R twist lock receptacle at the house. I wonder if I can set the OEM ESEV to Max 24 amps?

I can’t get into a Model 3 without contorting my neck to duck under the roof line. Then there’s question about reliability and limited service locations.
2019 SL Plus 5/19- current
2018 SV w/tech and All Weather pkg 5/18-4/19 (traded)
2015 SL 4/15-5/18 (traded)
2019 Ford F-350 Lariat Ultimate CCSB SRW Diesel
2015 Lexus RX450h
2017 Grand Design RV 337RLS 5th wheel

umdkevin
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:47 am
Delivery Date: 15 Apr 2019

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Sun May 12, 2019 3:52 am

Jerryr wrote:I did it... negotiating between 2 dealerships. Negotiated $3100 off the $44,920 Leaf SV Plus MSRP and negotiated a few thousand more for trades.


Fantastic, good on you for getting them down further :D
LEAF 2018 SV Gun Metallic (traded at odo 7350)
LEAF 2019 SL Plus Gun Metallic
5/4/19 - odo 570, SOH 99.22, AHr 175.02, Hx 103.17

Baltneu
Posts: 173
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:54 pm
Delivery Date: 06 Oct 2018
Leaf Number: 313633

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Sun May 12, 2019 5:51 am

Enjoy the new car.

I also have range anxiety on my 2018 SL.
I lease, nothing I can do about it for another 2 1/2 years.
2018 Gun Metallic Gray, SL, Technology Package, etc.

SageBrush
Posts: 4049
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: Colorado

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Sun May 12, 2019 6:13 am

Jerryr wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
Jerryr wrote:
Now I have to install a 50 amp 14-50R receptacle at the cabin. I have an unused L14-30R twist lock receptacle at the house. I wonder if I can set the OEM ESEV to Max 24 amps?

You can set a Tesla car to charge at whatever Amp you want (up to the maximum.) I'm not sure if currently or in the future, but a talked about feature is for different Amp settings by location.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

webb14leafs
Posts: 248
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:43 am
Delivery Date: 27 Mar 2017

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Mon May 13, 2019 6:33 am

Congratulations! Although, you might have been fine with your previous car.

I'm surprised by the prices of the Leaf+. The Leaf's have a pretty clear trend of starting the new model year pretty high, and then drastically discounting by the end of the year. I hope that continues. You can get a 2018 SV for ~$27K. So $42K for a new one seems pretty crazy.

lorenfb
Posts: 2191
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:53 pm
Delivery Date: 22 Nov 2013
Leaf Number: 416635
Location: SoCal

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Mon May 13, 2019 7:11 am

webb14leafs wrote:Congratulations! Although, you might have been fine with your previous car.


Very true for most of us.

webb14leafs wrote: So $42K for a new one seems pretty crazy.


Given the 2019 battery unknowns at that price, surprised anyone would consider buying one.
#1 Leaf SL MY 9/13: 74K miles, 48 Ahrs, 5.2 miles/kWh (average), Hx=70, SOH=78, L2 - 100% > 1000, temp < 95F (35C), min discharge (DOD) > 20 Ahrs
#2 Leaf SL MY 12/18: 115 Ahrs, 5.5 miles/kWh (average), Hx=98, SOH=99, DOD > 25%, temp < 105F

Lothsahn
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Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:35 pm
Delivery Date: 04 Jan 2018
Leaf Number: 007797

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Mon May 13, 2019 9:37 am

Jerryr wrote:Good news is I own it outright with no lien.

WIFE LIKES IT! I can get in and out with no problems just like our 18 SV.


This is the most important part of the entire post. :-)
2011 Silver SV, purchased 2018, lives in Missouri (previously in CA)
LeafSpy Pro + BAFX Products OBDII dongle
Battery swap 2019/04/24 (87% SOH, 12 bar)

webb14leafs
Posts: 248
Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:43 am
Delivery Date: 27 Mar 2017

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Mon May 13, 2019 11:03 am

Lothsahn wrote:
Jerryr wrote:Good news is I own it outright with no lien.

WIFE LIKES IT! I can get in and out with no problems just like our 18 SV.


This is the most important part of the entire post. :-)


TRUTH!!!!

Jerryr
Posts: 53
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 8:18 am
Delivery Date: 14 May 2018
Leaf Number: 307113

Re: What is your real world range with 40 and 62 KWH?

Mon May 13, 2019 4:01 pm

webb14leafs wrote:Congratulations! Although, you might have been fine with your previous car.

I'm surprised by the prices of the Leaf+. The Leaf's have a pretty clear trend of starting the new model year pretty high, and then drastically discounting by the end of the year. I hope that continues. You can get a 2018 SV for ~$27K. So $42K for a new one seems pretty crazy.


I was not comfortable taking a 120 mile trip at 65 mph and no charging stations along the way with the 40 kWh battery Leaf. Slowing down on a 2 lane road to increase range would create difficulties for traffic trying to pass me. Plus eventual battery degradation would make this trip more challenging in future years.

There are only 5 SL Plus Leafs listed in the State of Florida so negotiating price was a challenge. I’m used to cars being a commodity where I can negotiate between multiple dealership for the same exact vehicle. With limited stock it’s more difficult. In fact the original dealership in Orlando sold the other White SL 30 minutes after they rejected my offer of $5000 less that the original quote.

I negotiated a $3,192 discount off the MSRP on the one I bought. Did this all on the phone. They gave me $22,000 for our 2018 Leaf SV that we paid $31,887 for (5/15/18) almost exactly a year ago. If you figure the $7,500 tax credit in, that Leaf cost us $24,387. So I drove it for a year with only $2,387 in depreciation or about $200/mo. Not bad. Of course what’s not in there is the ~$1,000 interest lost by not banking the $24,387 for a year.

I traded 2 for 1 so I reduced my insurance bill by $1000 this year. I increased my monthly cash flow another $1,000/month this year by changing my Fed Tax withdrawal on my Annuity and Social security deposits to take advantage of the $7,500 tax credit again this year.

I’m 72 years old so as I tell my wife my clock is running out. ;) I want to enjoy the fruits of my 38 years working while I’m still healthy.
2019 SL Plus 5/19- current
2018 SV w/tech and All Weather pkg 5/18-4/19 (traded)
2015 SL 4/15-5/18 (traded)
2019 Ford F-350 Lariat Ultimate CCSB SRW Diesel
2015 Lexus RX450h
2017 Grand Design RV 337RLS 5th wheel

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