Yeah I have a lot of Tesla, Leaf, and Soul EV miles under my belt and I’ve never seen a Tesla use one of these adapters. I have also never felt the need to buy one myself.
I just don’t consider Tesla drivers in supercharger deserts using $500 adapters to be the savior of CHAdeMO in the US...
True.
So the 2021 CCS tally is:
Mustang Mach E
Audi eTron
VW ID4
Jaguar I-PACE
BMW i3
Chevrolet Bolt + EUV
Hyundai IONIQ
Hyundai Kona
Kia eNiro
Polestar 2
Volvo XC40
Porsche Taycan
Mini Cooper SE
Nissan Ariya (coming soon)
The CHAdeMo tally is:
Nissan Leaf
Tesla can move a given class of vehicle farther on a kWh of energy than any other automaker. They simultaneously pay less for that kWh of storage than any automaker. Those qualities are at the core of their competencies.
The supercharging network, autopilot, and software updates are just icing...
Going forward the only new car sold with CHAdeMO in North America will be the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV of all things.
CHAdeMO is dead for consumers in NA, EU, and SK.
I wonder if Nissan will change the Leaf to CCS for the 2021 model year. They’re already going to have a very hard time moving those cars and having a clearly dead quick charging connector isn’t going to help.
It’s Nissan though so they’ll probably just let the car die on the vine.
There are some really good and really weak points on this car.
+ Liquid cooled battery, finally
+ CCS
+ ProPilot 2
+ AWD
+ HUD
- 130 kW max fast charging
- No frunk
- 7.2 kW AC charging
- Not available in NA until late 2021
- 300 miles EPA from 87 kWh is weak if accurate, Model Y does 300+...
The Ariya a beautiful car and I particularly like the interior. I’m surprised they’re showing it more than a year before launch.
CCS charging is the death knell for CHAdeMO in North America. Not really a surprise I guess.
I would advise your friend that such a setup sounds like a fire hazard but if they spend a couple hundred bucks to have a proper outlet installed in the vicinity of the car they’ll probably have that tenant for a very long time.
I’m under the impression that CCS and CHAdeMO use different communication methods and that, combined with Nissan barely staying afloat, makes it unlikely they’d offer any retrofit for older cars. If they did I imagine it would be quite pricey.
There are two cars for sale in the US with CHAdeMO. One of them is a plug in hybrid SUV that nobody buys (Outlander) and the other is the Leaf which is a slow seller.
CCS cars on sale in 2020:
Audi etron
BMW i3
Chevy Bolt
Ford Mustang Mach E
Honda Clarity
Hyundai Ioniq
Hyundai Kona
Jaguar...
I’m really curious to see how that things sells. Not my cup of tea but clearly there’s enormous interest and they shouldn’t have any trouble moving 100k units a year.
Heh, I went back to the beginning of this thread and it’s kind of funny now.
When this thread began in 2015 who would have thought that little Tesla would end up delivering a million cars and Nissan would be on the brink of collapse in 2020?
The irony.