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FYI: I'm in the Seattle area. An SR doesn't do it. We're cheap, but we also enjoy our luxuries, and if we're buying a brand new car, it's not going to be baseline, or even close to. And I'd love to see these Model S 85s you're talking about. We did a lot of shopping, and the only 85s we saw in...

I wasn't "focusing" on anything. The two year mark is just an arbitrary point of comparison. It looks even worse the longer you own the car, but since the majority of depreciation happens in those first two years, I didn't see any point in using a different point of reference. Two years is...

You are welcome to make value judgments on your own about Nissan's performance in this matter. I don't see how that winds up being a factor in my analysis, unless you expect me perhaps to make a decision "on principle" vs the actual economics and practicality of the matter (which I have been...

If you make an untrue statement, and I quote that statement, saying you said it, then everything I said is true. All I've said is that you said something. That your statement was untrue doesn't make mine untrue as well. I definitely don't know what relevance that has to my statements. I never...

1. Neither are depreciation costs. 2. Our oldest car is nearly 30 years old. The next oldest is 22 years old. Annual maintenance costs on each is less than $1000. And that's for gas powered vehicles, which are a lot more needy. Our LEAF has required essentially no maintenance; the only thing...

"Waste" is a prejudiced way to phrase it. Rest assured, we won't buy the battery if we decide the money would be wasted. If we do decide to buy the battery, then by definition we have established that, at least for us, the money isn't wasted. The car's a 2013, and even if the battery were in...

We've already purchased a used Model S to complement the LEAF. Worst case, we'll keep the LEAF for shorter trips, as you say. But, we live in a rural area, so no trip is truly a short trip. Fact is, as much of a rip-off the $9000 battery seems, if it's at least an upgrade in size, it's a lot...

To be clear, everything I wrote is true. Whether the statement by the dealer, which I referenced, is true or not, I cannot say. While I've read enough on these forums to take your statements as reliable, there is enough missing detail from the statement above that I can't say for sure it applies...

I have read this entire thread (all 38 pages!) with interest, as our 2013 LEAF's battery is deteriorating suddenly, after five solid years of no significant degradation. I blame, at least in part, our upgrade to the 3G radio last year, as that resulted in our 12V battery running down...