Help interpreting leafspy for a potential 2017

[hiposner]

I am looking at a 2017, it's clean low mileage, but the batteries worry me. He's asking 7k, I'll get a 4k rebate from pge and he's throwing in the juicepack charger. Here is some data I collected from leafspy...Thoughts?

 

[BillAinCT]

I would look for a car with a better SOH if it were me. For the mileage, that seems on the low end of expected.

 

[hiposner]

I would look for a car with a better SOH if it were me. For the mileage, that seems on the low end of expected.

Thanks, that's what I thought, but for 3k out of pocket and a juice box thrown in.. I am really pondering it. Dang

 

[BillAinCT]

Does the range on an 80% charge (recommended unless you need 100% and will drive pretty soon thereafter) meet your needs? It seems like it's not even 50 miles.

 

[hiposner]

Does the range on an 80% charge (recommended unless you need 100% and will drive pretty soon thereafter) meet your needs? It seems like it's not even 50 miles.

Great question. At full it says 89 miles...which doesn't really make sense if the SOH is 68 percent?! 71 miles would be fine (.8 x 89). But how much will it degrade each year. I need about 65 to do everything I need and 40 for a typical day.

 

[BillAinCT]

Yeah it doesn't add up to me either. And I know $3k out of pocket is a sweet deal, but no one wants it to turn out not so good.

 

[nlspace]

LaefSpy indicates that it has about 22kWh pack capacity remaining, so if a person can drive to get 4 miles per kwh that would be a range of 88 miles on the guessestimator.

If you need 40 miles to do your daily round trip, then it would likely be a decent car for another 3 years, so $1k per year--seems like a good deal to me.

 

[Drew21]

As indicated above, you have to assess your driving needs and conditions: your efficiency and range will be much lower with 40 miles on the Interstate at 70+ mph in comparison to 40 miles on 55 mph country roads or slower suburban streets.

As an example, our 2014 Leaf (78,xxx miles) just dropped to 10 SOH bars. My wife commutes around 35 miles roundtrip with free charging at work. The semi-rural roads she drives on have speed limits from 25-45 mph, so our lifetime efficiency over about 17,xxx miles of ownership is 5.4 miles/kWh. In other words, even with a declining battery she can make the roundtrip 2x without charging or (more commonly) we can use the Leaf for short trips around home while leaving enough range to easily get back to work for another free charge.

Just FYI, the 89 mile predicted range shown in your picture doesn't mean much (to you) unless you drove the car on your typical route before charging it back to 100%. It's based on recent driving which may or may not be representative of the range you would see on your typical drive.

 

[rsbrax]

I am curious if/how you confirmed the purchase would qualify for the $4k rebate. The seller must be registered which is typically a dealer and not an individual. Also, there are many posts on this site about trouble with 30kWh packs. Therefore, 2018+ models make more sense if you want a 40kWh pack.

 

[goldbrick]

If the car has had the firmware update then it might qualify for a 40kWh warranty replacement battery pack. That would be a great deal for the price. You need to see if the firmware update has been done as that is critical for the warranty. The warranty period is 8 years from when the car left the dealer's lot so the SOH would have to drop about 2% more before that time.

 

[hiposner]

I am curious if/how you confirmed the purchase would qualify for the $4k rebate. The seller must be registered which is typically a dealer and not an individual. Also, there are many posts on this site about trouble with 30kWh packs. Therefore, 2018+ models make more sense if you want a 40kWh pack.

It's a pge rebate of 4k. I read the fine print. Seems legit