Nissan Leaf Caught on Fire at Nissan HQ

[Bombastinator2]

I thought bury it in sand, but I suppose a fire blanket does that. Water is counter intuitive though.

 

[Bernardo Simões]

It’s possible as this sounds like it was actually owned by Nissan that that particular vehicle may have never gone through actual qc or failed it. So any problems it had (well it’s not really a vehicle anymore) may not apply to non Nissan owned vehicles. The thing may have never technically left the factory.

I had my Leaf checked by Nissan on Thursday and it caught on fire while charging on Tuesday

 

[Bombastinator2]

I had my Leaf checked by Nissan on Thursday and it caught on fire while charging on Tuesday

Different instance.

 

[chasersukiyon]

My 2019 Nissan Leaf has been burned down while charging at the Chargepoint. I reported to both Nissan and Chargepoint (EV station) and they are NOT taking any responsibility. The Nissan dealer replaced the battery in 2023 as it was malfunctioning, but it seems like it did not resolve. This was a total loss and not acceptable for such a disgraceful decision. Any thought of what we can do to make them aware more of the danger and possibly get compensation?

 

[Bernardo Simões]

My 2019 Nissan Leaf has been burned down while charging at the Chargepoint. I reported to both Nissan and Chargepoint (EV station) and they are NOT taking any responsibility. The Nissan dealer replaced the battery in 2023 as it was malfunctioning, but it seems like it did not resolve. This was a total loss and not acceptable for such a disgraceful decision. Any thought of what we can do to make them aware more of the danger and possibly get compensation?

When did the fire happened?

 

[chasersukiyon]

When did the fire happened?

It happened on July 19th 2024 in Atlanta, GA

 

[Bombastinator2]

Apparently there is more than one instance getting talked about. There is the one where the Nissan security vehicle caught fire, and at least one other posted by forum members. They're all different instances with potentially different causes.

 

[cwerdna]

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V700-4145.pdf on page 3 mentions Sept 5, 2023 fire which would line up basically w/what the OP reported.

It happened on July 19th 2024 in Atlanta, GA

Above doc mentions July 19, 2024 fire.

I found this via https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2019/NISSAN/LEAF/5%2520HB/FWD#recalls under associated docs (there are 6 now and it will grow) under campaign 24V700000.

Happened to my 2020 nissan leaf sv last week
Total loss

Above doc mentions reports on Aug 13 and 14, 2024 of incidents.

 

[Bombastinator2]

Again? Or is this the same one from a few months ago? The old one was a security guard vehicle. I got the impression that it was a factory prototype or second or something and not legal for road use. They didn’t need road legal to drive in circles on the property.

If this is someone who burned their road legal car at a recharger, the same thing is gonna happen as an ice car that throws a rod through the hood. Bupkis. Any evidence of a defect burned up with the car so nobody is going to take that kind of really expensive responsibility when they don’t have to. And they don’t.

 

[cwerdna]

Again? Or is this the same one from a few months ago? The old one was a security guard vehicle. I got the impression that it was a factory prototype or second or something and not legal for road use. They didn’t need road legal to drive in circles on the property.

If this is someone who burned their road legal car at a recharger, the same thing is gonna happen as an ice car that throws a rod through the hood. Bupkis. Any evidence of a defect burned up with the car so nobody is going to take that kind of really expensive responsibility when they don’t have to. And they don’t.

Just read https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V700-4145.pdf.

 

[Bombastinator2]

Just read https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V700-4145.pdf.

So some cars have batteries that have an issue with stage3 charging. Not very many. Apparently 1% of those models listed. The “still investigating” bit seems critical. That was the thing they used on the backup camera blackout thing too. They did eventually issue a recall. The impression I got is that Nissan will attempt to wriggle out and will take as much time as it needs to to try. If they just can’t they’ll issue a recall. “Still investigating” sucks if your car burned up though.

These pages do not say which car is being talked about though.

 

[Gusset]

I wonder what one would have seen on one of the incident vehicles if they were monitoring the battery temperature readout, either on the dash or with Leafspy. I saw nothing in the report to indicate what SOC was at the time. I'm not inclined to put it to the test, but I'm wondering if manually restricting quick charge visits to stopping at a certain level would reduce/eliminate the risk (e.g. stop when battery reaches 70%, or whatever).

Guess I won't be trying that experimental 300 mile road trip for another 6+ months, or whenever (if?) the remedy is released.

 

[sergeroy2003]

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V700-4145.pdf on page 3 mentions Sept 5, 2023 fire which would line up basically w/what the OP reported.

Above doc mentions July 19, 2024 fire.

I found this via https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2019/NISSAN/LEAF/5%2520HB/FWD#recalls under associated docs (there are 6 now and it will grow) under campaign 24V700000.

Above doc mentions reports on Aug 13 and 14, 2024 of incidents.

Thank you for your factual info. I am one of the 26k owners involved and I did receive the recall notification. It is unfortunate that the sw solution will not be available until spring 2025, and I suspect that they will limit power delivery.
I own a 2019 Leaf Plus.

 

[Bombastinator2]

Thank you for your factual info. I am one of the 26k owners involved and I did receive the recall notification. It is unfortunate that the sw solution will not be available until spring 2025, and I suspect that they will limit power delivery.
I own a 2019 Leaf Plus.

Wait..26k? I thought the newest one of those was 2017, so totally different design than the 2018-now 40k or 62k ones. This is very confusing.

 

[cwerdna]

Wait..26k? I thought the newest one of those was 2017, so totally different design than the 2018-now 40k or 62k ones. This is very confusing.

I don't understand why you're asking this. See the document at https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V700-4145.pdf. It says 25,704 model year 2019 to 2020 vehicles are affected on page 3. What's the confusion?

This likely only includes US vehicles since this letter is going to NHTSA, a US only agency. Those are the only US Leafs allegedly affected.

I also point out in post 28 some dates in the letter that line up with reported fires here on MNL.

You can go lookup recalls on other model years of Leafs or other cars via https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls.

For kicks, I was able to find the Canadian version of this recall at https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/VRDB-BDRV/search-recherche/menu.aspx?lang=eng. It of course lists fewer vehicles since it only covers recalled Leafs that went to Canada.

 

[sergeroy2003]

Wait..26k? I thought the newest one of those was 2017, so totally different design than the 2018-now 40k or 62k ones. This is very confusing.

26,000 owners receiving the recall notice. I have the 62 kWh battery pack

 

[sergeroy2003]

I don't understand why you're asking this. See the document at https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2024/RMISC-24V700-4145.pdf. It says 25,704 model year 2019 to 2020 vehicles are affected on page 3. What's the confusion?

This likely only includes US vehicles since this letter is going to NHTSA, a US only agency. Those are the only US Leafs allegedly affected.

I also point out in post 28 some dates in the letter that line up with reported fires here on MNL.

You can go lookup recalls on other model years of Leafs or other cars via https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls.

For kicks, I was able to find the Canadian version of this recall at https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/7/VRDB-BDRV/search-recherche/menu.aspx?lang=eng. It of course lists fewer vehicles since it only covers recalled Leafs that went to Canada.

Thanks. Then I am one of the 6,000…

 

[Bombastinator2]

Because those vehicles don’t have 26k batteries. At least I thought they didn’t. 26k is the older model that stopped production in I think 2017, at least in the US.

 

[cwerdna]

Because those vehicles don’t have 26k batteries. At least I thought they didn’t. 26k is the older model that stopped production in I think 2017, at least in the US.

What are you talking about? Source of "26k is the older model that stopped production in I think 2017, at least in the US"?

Did you read the letter? Nissan says that (for the US), 15,850 model year '19 + 9,854 model year '20 vehicles are affected by the recall.

Although calendar years don't usually map cleanly due model years (e.g. in the US, in most but not all cases, the next model year cars start arriving at dealers starting around Aug to Sep then stop by around summer), you can look at these US sales charts
https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/re...december-2019-and-2019-calendar-year-us-sales
https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/re...-quarter-2020-and-2020-calendar-year-us-sales
From that, model year '19 to '20 were probably sold starting around Aug or Sept 2018 and possibly all the way thru end of 2020 (e.g. leftovers on lots).

 

[Bombastinator2]

What are you talking about? Source of "26k is the older model that stopped production in I think 2017, at least in the US"?

Did you read the letter? Nissan says that (for the US), 15,850 model year '19 + 9,854 model year '20 vehicles are affected by the recall.

Although calendar years don't usually map cleanly due model years (e.g. in the US, in most but not all cases, the next model year cars start arriving at dealers starting around Aug to Sep then stop by around summer), you can look at these US sales charts
https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/re...december-2019-and-2019-calendar-year-us-sales
https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/re...-quarter-2020-and-2020-calendar-year-us-sales
From that, model year '19 to '20 were probably sold starting around Aug or Sept 2018 and possibly all the way thru end of 2020 (e.g. leftovers on lots).

Yeah, but the guy says he has a 26k leaf. If he does it CAN’T be in that group because it’s got the wrong size battery. If I’m right about models ALL of the affected vehicles have to be 40k or 62k. The 26k leaf is a completely different car.