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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:10 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:42 am
cwerdna wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:00 pm
https://insideevs.com/news/464430/us-ch ... s-q4-2020/
In the full year 2020, Bolt EV sales also improved, by over 26% to 20,754 (compared to 16,418 in 2019), which is not that far from 23,297 in the record year of 2017. Really, not bad for a challenging year.

Since in 2020, the Chevrolet brand noted 1,739,792 sales (down 11.2% year-over-year), Bolt EV share is 1.2%.
In comparison, https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... r-us-sales for US Leafs sales show a total for 2020 of 9,564 vs. 12,365 in 2019.

I wonder how much of this is due to slow sales or if Nissan is intentionally limiting supplies/hindering sales in order have more Ariya's eligible for the full $7500 Federal tax credit and more eligible for the reduced amounts...
That's an interesting question. I wonder what the Leaf inventory looks like?
According to Cargurus, about 1800 Leafs and 5800 Bolts are for sale in the US. Nissan would probably sell more if they had as much inventory as Chevy.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:32 pm

Re: Bolt pricing, maybe that's another reason?

Perhaps people might be more aware of Bolt's being heavily discounted and some folks being confused by the Federal tax credit and required tax liability to get the full $7500 on (non-GM and non-Tesla) EVs? So... they look at Leaf and think too expensive and they think they can't get the full $7500? There is one anti-EV troll who comments a lot on Facebook groups of EV web sites and posted misinformation about the tax liability aspect...

Tax credit ended on GM EVs and PHEVs long ago...

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:39 pm

Some guy on a Bolt group pointed to https://www.offleaseonly.com/used-cars/ ... price_asc/ for cheap Bolts. He said that he used them before and they shipped a car (not Bolt) to WA for $1500. I looked at a few cars and they had no charging inlet pics to be able to confirm DC FC or no.

https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/dc-fa ... ost-562394 supposedly can tell you though. Supposedly, 1st pic is no DC FC while the 2nd one w/the extra cabling near the front == with DC FC. From that pic, https://www.offleaseonly.com/used-car/c ... 182359.htm probably has DC FC and it's also listed in the options. I checked some cheaper probably no DC FC ones and they don't have it listed in options.

Too bad that wasn't an option when I was in the market in Jan 2019. Back then, none of the 3 year leases on Bolts had run out (went on sale Dec 2016) so the used market for Bolts was horrible. There were few and they were overpriced vs. new.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:13 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:39 pm
Some guy on a Bolt group pointed to https://www.offleaseonly.com/used-cars/ ... price_asc/ for cheap Bolts. He said that he used them before and they shipped a car (not Bolt) to WA for $1500. I looked at a few cars and they had no charging inlet pics to be able to confirm DC FC or no.
The website has a 'specs' section. In the one car I looked at it included DCFC.

What is the status of the Bolt fires ? Has the problem been resolved ?
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:11 pm

It's best to verify as I've seen sometimes incorrect specs on other used car listings (not necessarily Bolt) elsewhere.

Nope. No resolution yet. :( Currently, at https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2017/CHEV ... WD#recalls there are 15 associated documents for campaign 20V701000, so one would probably have to look for that to grow to include something useful. The stop sale on '17 and '18 Bolts + the affected '19 Bolts (not mine) is still in place. Interim fix is still deemed insufficient to make it saleable. Some GM dealers are following the instructions while some (fewer?) are ignoring them and selling them anyway.

I've heard no additional reports of fires so that could mean one of several things...

By not mine, the last time I checked the My Chevrolet app (yesterday), it said none applied to my vehicle. I put in my VIN again into https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls and as always, it says 0 unrepaired recalls.

update: I checked their app again. Answer unchanged. Recall still doesn't apply to me.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:00 pm

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:02 pm

Maybe I'll snag a $99 Bolt lease later this year. :D
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:17 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:00 pm
Here is a cool Bolt super journey.

https://alaskalandmine.com/landmines/pl ... oX9npRKtU4
That was quite a trip. It reminded me of the motorcycle trip my nephew and I took in August 2019 from Anchorage to Portland, Oregon. Although we did not need to carry extra gasoline in portable containers, there were places in Alaska, northern British Columbia, and Yukon Territory that required careful consideration of fuel stops.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:14 am

While the article itself is short on information, the implications are great.
GM will reveal its new Chevy Bolt and Bolt 'EUV' next month
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chrysler ... ccounter=1
This is the teaser video of the new Bolt dash ("available summer 2021"):
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Along with this whole website: https://www.gmexhibitzero.com/live-talks.html
including videos titled "The Time for EVs is Upon Us" and "EV Technology at the Turning Point"
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:48 pm

Chevy offers 0% financing on used (certified) Bolt EV and Volt
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... v-and-volt

The stop sale on '17 to '18 + affected '19s appears to be still in effect and those are decertified right now anyway. So, I guess for Bolt, you'd have to spring for a used certified unaffected '19 or '20, unless GM lifts the stop sale on the other vehicles and undoes the temporary decertification.

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