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US: Mazda MX-30 Sales Halted At Just 8 Units In Q3 2022
After sales of the last several units in July, no more sales were reported in August and September.
https://insideevs.com/news/615828/us-mazda-mx30-sales-2022q3/
"It's difficult to say whether the Mazda MX-30 will return as a 2023 model year and potentially with improved specs or a range-extender option (EREV)."
 
cwerdna said:
US: Mazda MX-30 Sales Halted At Just 8 Units In Q3 2022
After sales of the last several units in July, no more sales were reported in August and September.
https://insideevs.com/news/615828/us-mazda-mx30-sales-2022q3/
"It's difficult to say whether the Mazda MX-30 will return as a 2023 model year and potentially with improved specs or a range-extender option (EREV)."
Lets see, somewhat poor range in these times, not particularly cheap, and not a lot else going for it. Why people didn't flock to it I have no idea :roll: Build a car people want and they'll flock to it. Case in point my Rav-4 Prime I've had on order for more than 2-years! Lots of people out looking for EVs and PHEVs, just not much selection and anything decent has a year's waiting list......
A guy at work would buy a BZX today if it were offered but will probably end up purchasing a ICE vehicle as he won't be able to wait for the mfgs. to get their act together, kind of sad really.
 
The extra whammy comes in it being ineligible for $7500 Federal tax credit since it's not made in North America. This was due to the sudden change in August (IIRC).
 
cwerdna said:
The extra whammy comes in it being ineligible for $7500 Federal tax credit since it's not made in North America. This was due to the sudden change in August (IIRC).

Your statement is misleading. All orders placed in 2022 that are eligible for the tax credit by 2022 rules will get the credit even if the car is delivered in 2023.
 
Ok. Well, there needed to be binding contract in place earlier (https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml). My intent was to cover its status in the present (e.g. no binding contract prior to the rule change).
 
^^ my understanding is that if a car is eligible for the tax credit by 2022 rules, it will gain the credit if ordered in 2022.

The 2023+ rules take effect from Jan 1, 2023. The cars ordered in 2022 fall under the transition clause
 
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml
currently says:
Preliminary guidance from the Internal Revenue Service addresses two important issues regarding vehicles purchased in 2022:

If you entered into a written binding contract to purchase a new qualifying electric vehicle before August 16, 2022, but do not take possession of the vehicle until on or after August 16, 2022, (for example, because the vehicle has not been delivered), you may claim the EV credit based on the rules that were in effect before August 16, 2022.
If you purchase and take possession of a qualifying electric vehicle between August 16, 2022 and December 31, 2022, final assembly of the vehicle had to be completed in North America, otherwise the same rules in effect prior to the enactment of the Inflation Reduction Act apply (including those involving the manufacturing caps on vehicles sold).
 
SageBrush said:
^^ my understanding is that if a car is eligible for the tax credit by 2022 rules, it will gain the credit if ordered in 2022.

The 2023+ rules take effect from Jan 1, 2023. The cars ordered in 2022 fall under the transition clause

I wish it were as my '22 Rav4 Prime "on a ship heading towards the US" is supposed to be here before Jan1 '23 but from everything I've read, will be ineligible for the tax credit, even if it comes before '23. I knew I would only get half the $7500 as apparently, Toyota has sold too many EVs :? but Nissan hasn't.....but anyway it sounds like as the battery and everything else was made in Japan, I'll get zilch on the tax credit, even though I made a few changes to make sure I'd have at least a $7500 tax liability in '22. all for naught!
 
Jjeff would've needed a "written binding contract to purchase a new qualifying electric vehicle before August 16, 2022".

Toyota burned thru almost all of their Federal tax credit slots via PHEVs.
 
2023 Mazda MX-30 On Sale In US With Same 100-Mile Range, No REx
It doesn't get the rotary engine range extender variant that's coming to Europe; on top of that, it's $740 more expensive
https://insideevs.com/news/630538/2023-mazda-mx-30-on-sale-us-with-same-100-mile-range-no-rex/
 
It's like Mazda wants its EV endeavor to fail, that or they are totally clueless about what N. Americans want, but as they've been doing business here for years and are somewhat successful, that's hard to believe.
I mean don't get me wrong, a 75-mile EV might be OK but IMO not without the ICE extender, with that it might be a decent alternative(as long as they don't neuter the gas tank as BMW did with the i3) to a large pack but not without it :) at least thats one of the things that turned me off to the i3 when I was considering it back in the day before I bought my first Leaf.
 
https://jalopnik.com/dead-mazda-mx-30-1850688059 says the MX-30 is dead.

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2023/06/20230623-mazda.html mentions
"Mazda begins mass production of MX-30 e-SKYACTIV R-EV PHEV with rotary engine genset
23 June 2023

Mazda Motor has started mass production of the European model of the MAZDA MX-30 e-SKYACTIV R-EV at Ujina Plant No. 1 in Hiroshima City..." but it seems we in the US will never get it.

An article pointed out Mazda's only sold/leased 66 MX-30 year to date in the US. Confirmed at https://news.mazdausa.com/2023-07-03-Mazda-Reports-June-Sales-Results.
 
cwerdna said:
https://jalopnik.com/dead-mazda-mx-30-1850688059 says the MX-30 is dead.

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2023/06/20230623-mazda.html mentions
"Mazda begins mass production of MX-30 e-SKYACTIV R-EV PHEV with rotary engine genset
23 June 2023

Mazda Motor has started mass production of the European model of the MAZDA MX-30 e-SKYACTIV R-EV at Ujina Plant No. 1 in Hiroshima City..." but it seems we in the US will never get it.

An article pointed out Mazda's only sold/leased 66 MX-30 year to date in the US. Confirmed at https://news.mazdausa.com/2023-07-03-Mazda-Reports-June-Sales-Results.

Mazda rules! That'll teach Aptera not to try to compete with them :lol:
 
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