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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:33 pm

knightmb wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:19 pm
It was more of a "beater" question in the sense of low mileage due to advanced battery degradation versus having to pony up some money for a plus version of a Leaf if your daily mileage was much higher.
Yes, I probably would consider one for a short time (a year or two). In fact, when I mentioned a used LEAF, I was thinking of a 24kWh one.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:47 pm

The comments about "being made whole" really depend upon case law and interpretation in the state (jurisdiction) where the crash happened. I found out in Arizona that I would have had a much better case if I had gone to a doctor even though I was not injured. I am glad JLV is OK.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:40 am

GerryAZ wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:47 pm
I found out in Arizona that I would have had a much better case if I had gone to a doctor even though I was not injured.
I cannot say I am surprised. I'm willing to wager that the per capita lawyer population in AZ is 'impressive.'

Addendum: ... And I was wrong. This site
https://www.lawyersofdistinction.com/la ... per-state/
says AZ is one of the lowest. I'd still want to to count the personal injury sub-group but that data is harder to come by.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:39 am

SageBrush wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:40 am
GerryAZ wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:47 pm
I found out in Arizona that I would have had a much better case if I had gone to a doctor even though I was not injured.
I cannot say I am surprised. I'm willing to wager that the per capita lawyer population in AZ is 'impressive.'

Addendum: ... And I was wrong. This site
https://www.lawyersofdistinction.com/la ... per-state/
says AZ is one of the lowest. I'd still want to to count the personal injury sub-group but that data is harder to come by.
I wonder if the US average number takes DC into account? if so I'd think its extraordinarily large number could skew the US numbers. I'm guessing DC doesn't actually have that many actively practicing lawyers in DC but rather they just live there? Regardless I'd think to get a true US average they should omit DC.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:26 am

Oh, they practice, all right. They practice lobbying.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:13 pm

Following. More interested in the logic employed to obtain a replacement since a fix would be completely out of my mind.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:05 pm

That looks so bad, so which car are you planning to get? :shock:

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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:11 pm

Thanksgiving delayed everything. The adjuster isn't even going to look at the car until Wednesday. I'm still in limbo, expecting the car to totaled.

I was slightly in shock afterwards, so I didn't think to turn off the emergency blinkers. With the HV battery disconnected, the 12V died overnight. I foolishly didn't get everything out the car the day of the accident, and am unable to get the car to open up. There are just a few things in there that matter (e.g., the Tesla umbrella that I got in the goodie bag when I picked up the car - Tesla no longer does goodie bags). I need to wait until the disposition of the car is determined before trying to get the door opened via the tow company.

I started thinking about replacement cars. Picking up a Model 3 overnight loaner today. Making appointments to drive a number of other EVs. However, I have a Tesla wall connector, and getting any other model EV would require a replacement EVSE. Not to mention dealing with other charging networks on long trips. The SuperCharger network makes all our trips so very trivial, so I will be hard pressed to buy a new EV that doesn't use it.

Which is why I'm thinking of used EVs, specifically a LEAF. There don't seem to be many around.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:15 pm

Meanwhile, last night my son told me he's sold his 15 year old Accord (to his sister) and is looking at a longer-range EV to supplement his LEAF, so that he doesn't need to take the pickup on long trips. He's considering the Niro EV and the ID.4. So we're going to compare notes on test drives.

(I actually suggested he wait until summer and consider the Ariya)

For me, my Model S was a 75D with 350V battery, so it topped out SuperCharging at 120kW. When I bought it, that speed was originally 100kW, until Tesla uprated the v2 SuperChargers from 120kW to 150kW. I see the Niro EV maxes out at 77kW on CCS, and the ID.4 tops out at 125kW. Those speeds pretty much rules out me buying either of those as a new car. I was thinking if I have to get a new car I'd have much faster DC charging - e.g., 250kW on any new Tesla.
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Re: I'm probably in the market for another car

Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:30 pm

jlv wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 1:11 pm
However, I have a Tesla wall connector, and getting any other model EV would require a replacement EVSE.
My understanding is that the only difference between Tesla's EVSE and a standard one is mechanical. Electrically they are both J1772. So you could just change the cord to one with a standard J1772 plug instead of the Tesla plug, or get a mechanical adapter. Not sure if there are any high qualify options available for the latter, though.

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