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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:34 am

I would buy a Focus as shown in a second over the Leaf

I am not Brand loyal to Nissan.

the Focus style looks great.

I have signed up for info and we will see what happens.
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:14 am

kmp647 wrote:I would buy a Focus as shown in a second over the Leaf

I am not Brand loyal to Nissan.

the Focus style looks great.

I have signed up for info and we will see what happens.
What's the link for getting e-mail info on the Ford Focus EV, Kevin?
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:18 am

TimeHorse wrote:
kmp647 wrote:I would buy a Focus as shown in a second over the Leaf

I am not Brand loyal to Nissan.

the Focus style looks great.

I have signed up for info and we will see what happens.
What's the link for getting e-mail info on the Ford Focus EV, Kevin?

Go here:
http://www.ford.com/electric/focuselectric/2012/

and hit the button, "Get Updates"
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:23 am

Feature-wise, they seem "close enough", as you detailed. There's not really one deal-killer.
If anything, I have more confidence in Ford making rapid improvements in the software/connectivity/IT area.
(Nissan has already shown themselves slow and confused in the Web-side portion, or at least poor in their choice of subcontractors.)

I've said before that the L3 isn't useful to me (with the paucity of L3 chargers likely to continue over three years), and 6.6kW is very useful.

But really, it's back to styling and appeal. I've never been a fan of the Leaf styling or interior. I'd rather have that Ford.
On the other hand, I'd rather get into a Nissan than a Ford, just based on track record and previous cars.

I'm buying (ok, leasing) a Leaf because it's FIRST.

The longer Nissan leaves me in frustrated Pending limbo, the less I feel like doing business with them and waiting to find out if they are First. If Ford can put one in my driveway first, with superior styling, I'm there. I'd pay an extra $5k, since that's the CA rebate I'd likely miss by being Pending.

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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:53 am

TimeHorse wrote:So how much more would I pay for a Ford Focus EV over a LEAF? $2150.
So, nothing for smaller trunk or (probably) worse weight balance ? Also, how about liquid cooled batteries ? Anything for that ?

My (tea leaf) reading of Ford announcement is that their range will be "comparable" but smaller than Leaf. I expect it to come in high 60s in EPA test - where Leaf scored 73.
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:16 am

GroundLoop wrote:Feature-wise, they seem "close enough", as you detailed. There's not really one deal-killer.
The lack of trunk space is a serious deal killer for me.

BUT - Ford's C-Max Volt style mini mini van is very appealing to me as a second car in addition to the LEAF.
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:28 am

cdub wrote:BUT - Ford's C-Max Volt style mini mini van is very appealing to me as a second car in addition to the LEAF.
They call it a compact crossover. I'm excited enough about it that I registered c-maxenrgi.com last night as soon as I saw the news. Surprised Ford didn't reserve it.
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:48 am

kmp647 wrote:I would buy a Focus as shown in a second over the Leaf
Even if it costs $7-8K more? Not me! The value of the FEV is less than the LEAF, so if they don't price it less, it's no sale! I don't know if you noticed, but a lot of the standard features on the LEAF are Options on the FEV.
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:08 pm

My guess for Focus EV is $37,495 - making it "under $30K", post tax credit. That would be about $5K over Leaf, $5K less than Volt.
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Re: Ford Focus EV

Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:45 pm

Anyone seen trunk yet?

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