Don't know if YOU know this, but Toyota is partnering with Airgas /Air Liquide to provide fueling stations right now. Biggest problem... they are only able to fill at most locations 20-40 cars per day!GRA wrote: As has been covered extensively in the Hydrogen/fuel cell thread, Toyota alone is subsidizing 18 stations in California which will open before this car becomes available (the state is subsidizing up to 100 over the next few years, but IIRR will have 50-something by next October). The FCV manufacturers all plan to only sell/lease cars to people within 6 minutes of a fueling station, making sure the vehicle will be a good fit.
And Airgar (I get my welding tanks filled there) are not nec in the most convenient locations for someone driving and then wanting to get off the hwy and go fill real quick..
And your comment about being 6min away?? I have a neighbor 1 street down with a new Toyota FCHV with stickers planted all over it saying 70+MPGe "hydrogen is the future" ,etc...And these hydrogen stops aren’t exactly as convenient as your typical gas station. Air Liquide, the company responsible for the ones proposed for the northeast, says a typical station will handle just 40 cars per day. Some commenters at Green Car Reports note that the math on these equations is terrible. First, the estimated cost is upwards of $2 million each. That means through 2017, about $45,000 per vehicle will be spent on fueling infrastructure alone. For the same cost, nearly 100,000 240-volt chargers could be installed, supporting perhaps twice that many EVs for daytime charging in parking lots. In other words, the infrastructure spend could support nearly 60 times as many battery-powered vehicles and those wouldn’t require any fueling stops at all.
Closest station to us....
151 W Verdugo Ave
Burbank, CA 91502
Time: 29min (traffic)
Sorry.. but just in case your High School (or Jr.High) science classes may have left you along time ago, do a little google searching about how Hydrogen burns... how it's invisible.. and pretty f'ing HOT!
The only way to detect a fire is by seeing a heat wave(distortion), a thermal imager, or a "CHEMICAL" introduced into the Hydrogen
Google it up and learn abit.. it's not pretty.. The only reason the Hindenburg had flames was all the burning humans, metals, alloys, furniture, etc,etc,etc..
P.S. I suggest you or anybody else read these docs.. Alot from Air Liquide and others.. One PDF is real intersting (imagine being in an underground parking garage with a FCHV leaking).. and a fire
http://h2bestpractices.org/incident_pro ... ponder.asp