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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:20 pm

Coming SR+ vs. LEAF race.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:32 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:12 am
coleafrado2 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:57 am
lotta people who bought into the sales pitch of "tEsLas DoN't DePrEcIaTe!!!!" the past five years are going to be real disappointed when SSBs are out in full force.
Only people who don't know how expensive it is to make SSB's believe that.

Besides, anyone who thinks Teslas don't depreciate should have already learned their lesson as Tesla enters ever cheaper model segments and as they continue to lower prices from production cost drops. When the SR+ got price-reduced to $37k, my 3yo model 3's used-car-value dropped to only 75% of its purchase price - significantly better retention value than any other car out there, but still depreciated. I imagine when the model 2 is released, it will depreciate further.
call me when Tesla actually has a vehicle available for <35k.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:20 am

coleafrado2 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:32 am
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:12 am
coleafrado2 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:57 am
lotta people who bought into the sales pitch of "tEsLas DoN't DePrEcIaTe!!!!" the past five years are going to be real disappointed when SSBs are out in full force.
Only people who don't know how expensive it is to make SSB's believe that.

Besides, anyone who thinks Teslas don't depreciate should have already learned their lesson as Tesla enters ever cheaper model segments and as they continue to lower prices from production cost drops. When the SR+ got price-reduced to $37k, my 3yo model 3's used-car-value dropped to only 75% of its purchase price - significantly better retention value than any other car out there, but still depreciated. I imagine when the model 2 is released, it will depreciate further.
call me when Tesla actually has a vehicle available for <35k.
You know that's a "when" condition, not an "if" condition, right? Unless you don't believe in Tesla's product plans?

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:48 am

I never recall a sales pitch of "Teslas don't depreciate". In fact, there was never any sales pitch at all. :lol:
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:58 pm

jlv wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:48 am
I never recall a sales pitch of "Teslas don't depreciate". In fact, there was never any sales pitch at all. :lol:
Yes, that's a splendid example of a "straw man" argument.

I bought my Model S used five years ago because it was all I could afford. I certainly was grateful that the car value had depreciated somewhat so that I could afford it!
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:21 pm

I agree. When I bought my Model S, I knew that new ones would depreciate heavily in the first few years.

But there was still no sales pitch.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:19 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:20 am
Model 2 (placeholder name for now) for 25K - currently being designed in Shanghai design center, but it will happen.
Everyone knows E will never bring the 25k car to the States.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:15 am

coleafrado2 wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:19 am
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:20 am
Model 2 (placeholder name for now) for 25K - currently being designed in Shanghai design center, but it will happen.
Everyone knows E will never bring the 25k car to the States.
Certainly from a practicality point it would be tough. Where would he build them? At least in the short to medium term I think manufacturing capacity is used up between the 4 existing models and the coming semi and Cybertruck.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am

I have decided that a rated mile is just Tesla's version of a GID.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:45 am

webeleafowners wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:15 am
coleafrado2 wrote:
Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:19 am
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:20 am
Model 2 (placeholder name for now) for 25K - currently being designed in Shanghai design center, but it will happen.
Everyone knows E will never bring the 25k car to the States.
Certainly from a practicality point it would be tough. Where would he build them? At least in the short to medium term I think manufacturing capacity is used up between the 4 existing models and the coming semi and Cybertruck.
Musk is talking about 20M vehicle capacity by the end of the decade. Tesla will build what the market wants in volume, so long as it can be done profitably.

That strikes me as common sense, but <<shrug>>
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