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evnow wrote:BTW, what I'd have liked Tesla to do is to give a CHaDEMO adapter, more than the supercharger capability.
I'll drink to that, except I'd like to see the CHAdeMO adapter in addition to the supercharger. I'm concerned that it is going to be awhile before superchargers cross the Siskiyous or the Columbia.

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$40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:36 pm

Model E could make its official debut at the 2015 North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Tesla confirmed Friday. It would begin selling in 2016 or 2017.

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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:50 pm

If they can actually do it at the purported price, it will be some serious competition, yes...
ILETRIC wrote:Model E could make its official debut at the 2015 North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Tesla confirmed Friday. It would begin selling in 2016 or 2017.
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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:56 pm

I don't see the point in comparing today's 2014 LEAF to a hypothetical 2017 Tesla Model E from a feature OR price point perspective. In addition, no matter how well Tesla executes they can't build every kind of car that every kind of person is going to want. There will always be room for an assortment of car manufacturers, whether we're talking ICE or BEV.

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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:35 pm

crabasa wrote:I don't see the point in comparing today's 2014 LEAF to a hypothetical 2017 Tesla Model E from a feature OR price point perspective. In addition, no matter how well Tesla executes they can't build every kind of car that every kind of person is going to want. There will always be room for an assortment of car manufacturers, whether we're talking ICE or BEV.

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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:38 pm

Real story? Link? Or April fools perhaps?
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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:44 pm

As much as I love Tesla, they're doing what has already been done before to great effect...

* Apple: On such and such a date, we're going to release <great product>...Competitor sales on similar products immediately drop or stop...Apple wins, even if their product is late or costs more.

* Samsung: On such and such a date, we're going to release a new version of <phone product>. It is going to be so great, with all these great features...Competitor sales on similar products immediately slow down in anticipation...Samsung wins...Product is eventually released, and it was just like the old product with a couple of new things...

Tesla has already talked about the new car, the price point, the range, etc. The battery will have to get much cheaper, so they're making plans for that. The cost of the E will have to be 1/3 of the Model S to meet what they've promised. Will it have the same features or be as nice? Probably not. Will the cost of the options raise it up considerably higher than the promised price? Probably...But they are already killing sales of other EVs because people are waiting for this magic Model E. While I would love for them to be successful and deliver the car for what they've been talking about, my bet is that a nicely equipped E will be substantially higher than what they've been talking about...They could even have a smaller battery for the "Standard" price...

If a nicely equipped E is $55-60K and the next gen LEAF with more features and whatever battery they come up with is in the same ballpark price ($35-38K), it's not really comparing apples to apples...

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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:52 pm

You could lease any car today and still not have the smaller tesla in your driveway before the end of the lease

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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:14 pm

Have they broken ground on the gigafactory?
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Re: $40K Tesla Electric Car Debut Possible at 2015 NAIAS

Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:36 pm

ILETRIC wrote:Model E could make its official debut at the 2015 North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Tesla confirmed Friday. It would begin selling in 2016 or 2017.

A nail in Leaf's coffin?
Model X was introduced over 2 years ago. Still waiting for the final specs, much less a car.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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