Official Tesla Model 3 thread

[cwerdna]

Apologies if this is a repost:

U.S. safety agencies to investigate fatal Tesla crash in Florida
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesl ... SKCN1QJ031

US agencies investigate fatal Tesla Model 3 crash in Florida
https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/03/us- ... ida-crash/

It's not yet clear if Autopilot was involved
...
American safety officials are looking into the circumstances surrounding another fatal Tesla crash. Both the NTSB and the NHTSA have confirmed that they're investigating a collision between a Model 3 and a semi truck in Delray Beach, Florida on March 1st. According to the police report, the truck was turning left to enter a main thoroughfare when the Model 3 crashed into the semi's trailer, shearing off the car's roof and killing the driver. It's not certain if Autopilot was active, although the Model 3 kept traveling for more than 500 yards before coming to a stop.

[LeftieBiker]

I saw it posted somewhere this week, but don't remember if it was here or elsewhere.

[lorenfb]

Apologies if this is a repost:

U.S. safety agencies to investigate fatal Tesla crash in Florida
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesl ... SKCN1QJ031

US agencies investigate fatal Tesla Model 3 crash in Florida
https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/03/us- ... ida-crash/

It's not yet clear if Autopilot was involved
...
American safety officials are looking into the circumstances surrounding another fatal Tesla crash. Both the NTSB and the NHTSA have confirmed that they're investigating a collision between a Model 3 and a semi truck in Delray Beach, Florida on March 1st. According to the police report, the truck was turning left to enter a main thoroughfare when the Model 3 crashed into the semi's trailer, shearing off the car's roof and killing the driver. It's not certain if Autopilot was active, although the Model 3 kept traveling for more than 500 yards before coming to a stop.

Same basic crash that also occurred in FL with a semi trailer (perpendicular to an oncoming vehicle) to a MS a few years ago.
That driver was assumed to be watching a video. Basically the MS AP didn't "see" the trailer body.

If the AP was activated, have to love Tesla's use of a neural network approach to AP technology, right? You have thought that
Tesla would have fully simulated every possible scenario involving a left turning semi with an oncoming Tesla vehicle when
using AP after the earlier MS crash.

[SageBrush]

If the AP was activated, have to love Tesla's use of a neural network approach to AP technology, right? You have thought that
Tesla would have fully simulated every possible scenario involving a left turning semi with an oncoming Tesla vehicle when
using AP after the earlier MS crash.

It has been extensively simulated and Tesla knows that its system cannot reliably recognize the above mentioned scenario.

By the way, there are ~ 200 - 400 similar accidents each year in the US unrelated to assisted driving technology. The Europeans require trucks to have a shield to prevent this type of accident and the US should too.

[lorenfb]

Apologies if this is a repost:

U.S. safety agencies to investigate fatal Tesla crash in Florida
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesl ... SKCN1QJ031

US agencies investigate fatal Tesla Model 3 crash in Florida
https://www.engadget.com/2019/03/03/us- ... ida-crash/

It's not yet clear if Autopilot was involved
...
American safety officials are looking into the circumstances surrounding another fatal Tesla crash. Both the NTSB and the NHTSA have confirmed that they're investigating a collision between a Model 3 and a semi truck in Delray Beach, Florida on March 1st. According to the police report, the truck was turning left to enter a main thoroughfare when the Model 3 crashed into the semi's trailer, shearing off the car's roof and killing the driver. It's not certain if Autopilot was active, although the Model 3 kept traveling for more than 500 yards before coming to a stop.

Same basic crash that also occurred in FL with a semi trailer (perpendicular to an oncoming vehicle) to a MS a few years ago.
That driver was assumed to be watching a video. Basically the MS AP didn't "see" the trailer body.

If the AP was activated, have to love Tesla's use of a neural network approach to AP technology, right? You have thought that
Tesla would have fully simulated every possible scenario involving a left turning semi with an oncoming Tesla vehicle when
using AP after the earlier MS crash.

Here's the link of the earlier MS crash in FL;

https://www.businessinsider.com/details ... sed-2017-6

[lorenfb]

If the AP was activated, have to love Tesla's use of a neural network approach to AP technology, right? You have thought that
Tesla would have fully simulated every possible scenario involving a left turning semi with an oncoming Tesla vehicle when
using AP after the earlier MS crash.

It has been extensively simulated and Tesla knows that its system cannot reliably recognize the above mentioned scenario.

By the way, there are ~ 200 - 400 similar accidents each year in the US unrelated to assisted driving technology. The Europeans require trucks to have a shield to prevent this type of accident and the US should too.

Then Tesla needs to augment the AP system design or just stop using the term AP and just call it gen2 ACC.

[SageBrush]

If the AP was activated, have to love Tesla's use of a neural network approach to AP technology, right? You have thought that
Tesla would have fully simulated every possible scenario involving a left turning semi with an oncoming Tesla vehicle when
using AP after the earlier MS crash.

It has been extensively simulated and Tesla knows that its system cannot reliably recognize the above mentioned scenario.

By the way, there are ~ 200 - 400 similar accidents each year in the US unrelated to assisted driving technology. The Europeans require trucks to have a shield to prevent this type of accident and the US should too.

Then Tesla needs to augment the AP system design or just stop using the term AP and just call it gen2 ACC.

"Pro-pilot" is equally deceiving.

I'm partial to "Co-pilot" myself, to emphasize that the human driver must stay engaged.

[lorenfb]

It has been extensively simulated and Tesla knows that its system cannot reliably recognize the above mentioned scenario.

By the way, there are ~ 200 - 400 similar accidents each year in the US unrelated to assisted driving technology. The Europeans require trucks to have a shield to prevent this type of accident and the US should too.

Then Tesla needs to augment the AP system design or just stop using the term AP and just call it gen2 ACC.

"Pro-pilot" is equally deceiving.

I'm partial to "Co-pilot" myself, to emphasize that the human driver must stay engaged.

Personally, I don't even enjoy using any form of assisted driving on my vehicles.

[palmermd]

Then Tesla needs to augment the AP system design or just stop using the term AP and just call it gen2 ACC.

"Pro-pilot" is equally deceiving.

I'm partial to "Co-pilot" myself, to emphasize that the human driver must stay engaged.

Personally, I don't even enjoy using any form of assisted driving on my vehicles.

then the $35k base Model 3 should be perfect. It does not come with any driver assist. It is what I ordered, and I don't think I'll miss it.

[EVDRIVER]

Then Tesla needs to augment the AP system design or just stop using the term AP and just call it gen2 ACC.

"Pro-pilot" is equally deceiving.

I'm partial to "Co-pilot" myself, to emphasize that the human driver must stay engaged.

Personally, I don't even enjoy using any form of assisted driving on my vehicles.

Which one of you “vehicles” has this feature that you don’t like to use and why? What don’t you like about the feature and what are the differences between each vehicle?