DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:27 pm

This shocked me. Anyone else getting rust yet?

https://insideevs.com/news/372613/tesla ... t-problem/
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:02 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:27 pm
This shocked me. Anyone else getting rust yet?

https://insideevs.com/news/372613/tesla ... t-problem/
No, but then again I didn't get into a fender bender a like the driver either.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:17 pm

Anyone on this board have to do much out of warranty maintenance yet?

When will generic parts (non Tesla) start coming out? Looks like Tesla has quite a premium for parts currently.

https://youtu.be/nq5c4jGR2gM
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:17 pm
Anyone on this board have to do much out of warranty maintenance yet?

When will generic parts (non Tesla) start coming out? Looks like Tesla has quite a premium for parts currently.

https://youtu.be/nq5c4jGR2gM
warranty on the 2012 Model S is 8 years unlimited miles....so everyone is still under warranty. And this is a Model 3 thread, so for sure all are under warranty.

Rich's cars are not under warranty because they are salvage vehicles.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:18 pm

palmermd wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 pm
warranty on the 2012 Model S is 8 years unlimited miles....so everyone is still under warranty.
No it's not. 8 years on the S is only for battery and drive unit. Unlimited mileage on battery and DU didn't apply to early 60 kWh cars nor the 40 kWh (which were 60 kWh cars software limited to 40) cars: https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty.

Rest of the car is only warranted for 4 years/50K miles.

Plenty of folks have had to pay for out of warranty repairs on the S like $800+ door handles, expensive half shafts (https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nty.93857/) or other stuff like MCUs, OBCs, or LCDs that leak, fail or develop bubbles.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... car.36414/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nit.94391/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 00.113478/ - not that many AC compressor failures but they're pricey to fix

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-1178854
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ay.104026/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2640231
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-1858962

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2826118
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nty.82411/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-3905062
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... en.164241/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2044381
palmermd wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 pm
And this is a Model 3 thread, so for sure all are under warranty.
Not if they're past 50K miles. It also seems like Tesla is no longer willing to cover squeaks and rattles under the 4 year/50K basic warranty. From what I gathered, it's covered only for a short period (e.g. 1 year/12K or 15K miles). It seems to have started recently (e.g. this year). Examples below:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... on.149817/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... es.144960/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... es.141073/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... re.151883/

I haven't watched the video yet...

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:35 am

cwerdna wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:18 pm
palmermd wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 pm
warranty on the 2012 Model S is 8 years unlimited miles....so everyone is still under warranty.
No it's not. 8 years on the S is only for battery and drive unit. Unlimited mileage on battery and DU didn't apply to early 60 kWh cars nor the 40 kWh (which were 60 kWh cars software limited to 40) cars: https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty.

Rest of the car is only warranted for 4 years/50K miles.

Plenty of folks have had to pay for out of warranty repairs on the S like $800+ door handles, expensive half shafts (https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nty.93857/) or other stuff like MCUs, OBCs, or LCDs that leak, fail or develop bubbles.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... car.36414/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nit.94391/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 00.113478/ - not that many AC compressor failures but they're pricey to fix

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-1178854
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ay.104026/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2640231
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-1858962

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2826118
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nty.82411/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-3905062
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... en.164241/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-2044381
palmermd wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:48 pm
And this is a Model 3 thread, so for sure all are under warranty.
Not if they're past 50K miles. It also seems like Tesla is no longer willing to cover squeaks and rattles under the 4 year/50K basic warranty. From what I gathered, it's covered only for a short period (e.g. 1 year/12K or 15K miles). It seems to have started recently (e.g. this year). Examples below:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... on.149817/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... es.144960/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... es.141073/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... re.151883/

I haven't watched the video yet...
Are squeaks and rattles a covered item for other cars? It wasn't for my Odyssey, unless it was related to the drivetrain.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:54 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:35 am
Are squeaks and rattles a covered item for other cars? It wasn't for my Odyssey, unless it was related to the drivetrain.
Yes. They've always been covered for the duration of the "bumper to bumper" 3 year/36K warranty on my current and previous cars (e.g. '02 Maxima, '04 350Z, '06 Prius, both '13 Leafs). Have not yet "taken advantage" on my '19 Bolt yet.

For Tesla, it seemed like they were doing the same until sometime this year. Now they've changed their mind for the worse. Folks have pointed out verbiage like this in https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/fil ... _NA_en.pdf
Additional Limitations and Exclusions
In addition to the above exclusions and limitations, this New Vehicle Limited Warranty does NOT cover:
...
General appearance or normal noise and vibration, including, but not limited to, brake squeal,general knocks, creaks, rattles, and wind and road vibration;

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:54 pm

Model 3 drivers on the forum.

Realistically, how far can you drive at 65-70 on a normal 60-70F day when not using any AC/Heat? I am asking as we may be looking for another car to dump our last ICE vehicle (2007 Kia Sedona with only 60K miles for anyone interested), and looking at a number of options.

In some (not all reviews and you tubers), it looks like the SR+ will do a realistic 200 miles and the LR about 260-270 at a shot(assuming I am running the car down to 5%, but not sub 1%). Now I am a conservative driver (hence my longer Leaf Plus runs), so would hope to do a little better than those numbers, but trying to get a feel for what you are experiencing. My colleague has an X, but claims significantly less than the EPA for the car, but I know also has a heavy foot, so not too surprising. She calls the miles on the dash "electric miles" which are less than real miles, do discount 3 for 2 or 2 for 1 in winter. They have a 3 LR as well, and say it can go farther (maybe 250..which sounds pretty low given EPA), but again heavier feet is my guess.

I did see one Illinois you tuber (Tech Forum), show recently that his runs from Chicago to Springfield ~210 miles) would take him down from 318 (LR RWD) down to 20 miles, but I don't know at what speed.

As we have 3 kids, I might consider a used X (I can't all 5 of us in the Plus for 200 miles..though I have done 4 for extended trips in the Leaf). Not sure we want 2 5 seaters, but as the oldest is off to college soon, it might not be too much of an issue, and it seems the 3 has fewer potential for problems. I would like to look at the Niro, and EQC/M but don't think any of those are coming to the midwest anytime soon.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:15 pm

Maybe someone can chime in about the accuracy of https://teslike.com/range/?
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:54 pm
As we have 3 kids, I might consider a used X (I can't all 5 of us in the Plus for 200 miles..though I have done 4 for extended trips in the Leaf). Not sure we want 2 5 seaters, but as the oldest is off to college soon, it might not be too much of an issue, and it seems the 3 has fewer potential for problems.
You don't want any X, new or used: viewtopic.php?p=541134#p541134.

Besides the URLs I posted there, you can look at the archived copy at https://web.archive.org/web/20181130005 ... able-cars/ since https://www.consumerreports.org/car-rel ... able-cars/ has been updated. X is now 3rd from the bottom instead of 2nd from the bottom.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:01 pm

I have looked at teslalike, and maybe on a flat track at 85F with no wind might be theoretical, but they seem slightly optimistic given what I see posted in the Tesla forums.

Thanks for the post on the X. I will X it off my list :)
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