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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:33 am
by SageBrush
mtndrew1 wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:25 am
BTW, my penalty for cruising with the high end of the traffic flow with no regards to consumption on my 19” wheels? That would be nearly 4.1 mi/KWh over the last 30k miles, quite similar to my consumption on my leaf and soul.
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I imagine 4.1 miles/kWh overall, not 4.1 miles/kWh at 85 mph.
However, I entirely agree with your post. Tesla ownership is hassle free.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:24 pm
by mtndrew1
That’s correct, I’ve averaged 4.1 over 30k miles.

Point being is that I just drive like I would in a gas car and don’t even bother with any of the formerly nail biting EV planning. It’s liberating.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:29 pm
by GRA
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:12 pm


Electrify America is a far cry from where it needs to be, even after they complete it (precisely because of insufficient chargers per site).

I agree they're insufficient for CHAdeMO-equipped cars, but not for CCS. EA has built sites with as many as 9 CCS-only chargers (plus 1 CCS-CHAdeMO, so 10 total), the number varying from as few as 3+1 in rural areas unlikely to see much traffic, on up. There's a much smaller number of CCS cars compared to Teslas at the moment, and IIRR it was at least three years and probably longer before Tesla built the first SC site with more than 10 chargers, as larger sites simply weren't needed until then.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
With 3 kids, having a 6th seat for grandma or a friend is a big difference. Mercedes has the EQM, but that’s a year or two from coming to the US. I am getting more X horror stories as I ask around.

While I agree that supercharger network is nice, EA with Evgo combined has started to balance things, even if still behind. Multistate travel is now fairly doable, where I would say was not the case 2 years ago. A number of state fast charger networks are going in this coming year which will balance further.

Europe is even farther ahead on the alternative networks.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:07 am
by SageBrush
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:28 pm
EA with Evgo combined has started to balance things,
Better every month this year
Yet still pitiful, and pitiful it will remain for CHAdeMO ... until it gets completely ignored and dies on the vine.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:42 pm
by Oils4AsphaultOnly
GRA wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:29 pm
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:12 pm


Electrify America is a far cry from where it needs to be, even after they complete it (precisely because of insufficient chargers per site).

I agree they're insufficient for CHAdeMO-equipped cars, but not for CCS. EA has built sites with as many as 9 CCS-only chargers (plus 1 CCS-CHAdeMO, so 10 total), the number varying from as few as 3+1 in rural areas unlikely to see much traffic, on up. There's a much smaller number of CCS cars compared to Teslas at the moment, and IIRR it was at least three years and probably longer before Tesla built the first SC site with more than 10 chargers, as larger sites simply weren't needed until then.
Let's see how many CCS enabled cars on the road does it take before EA realizes that 10 chargers on their busiest sites won't be enough? Even 3 at their less traveled sites is barely enough ... especially due to ICEing

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:37 pm
by GRA
Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:42 pm

Let's see how many CCS enabled cars on the road does it take before EA realizes that 10 chargers on their busiest sites won't be enough? Even 3 at their less traveled sites is barely enough ... especially due to ICEing

As some of the CCS cars can (and most eventually will) charge faster than was possible with SCs up until now, I suspect the time when nine or ten chargers per site won't be enough will be put back some years compared to Tesla, even assuming that CCS-equipped car sales equal Tesla's recent rates. I'd love for this to be an issue.

Of course, there's always another option to adding more chargers per site, and that's more sites. As it is, the large number of EA QCs built at Walmarts and Targets provides plenty of room for expanding the number of chargers at a particular site.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:59 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
Rode in an X today with its owner. I concur with the board here that it’s a complete no go. 2nd row seating has almost no foot room, and row 3 is all but 0. Really 0 leg room. The 5’2” passenger in 3rd row had to put her feet in the middle. Maybe an absolute pinch you could do 5 for a short ride. Falcon doors are cool, but not more than a novelty after a week. The owner said the navigation was substantially substandard compared to Apple CarPlay or android auto, and in watching i would have to agree. I understand though, as that would give Apple and Google the Tesla location data. Data is king. The screen size was nice. The X was a 90D and the owner was not confident would do Chicago - Iowa, which suggests sub 3 miles kWh.. ouch.

They have a 3 LR as well and say it would do the distance (200-220 miles) but they don’t take the X for those sorts of distances.

I know this sounds like a rant, but was very unimpressed in my first X drive.

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:11 pm
by DougWantsALeaf
Sagebrush

Have you seen this with your 3 with V10?

https://youtu.be/QTOaDolXJXU

Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:16 pm
by SageBrush
^^
Interesting video. I'm looking forward to more information.
A car test requires a test run from full to empty followed by a full charge. I'll pass for now

My completely unfounded WAG is that if this does turn out to be a case of Tesla quietly fiddling with the battery it will be limited to cars like Bjorn's that are used to charge frequently at ~ 200 kW. I have never really believed that current battery tech can put up with that level of power on a frequent basis, so I am primed to find out that I am right.

If this turns out to be the story then Tesla is pulling an e-tron-like trick and shifting the voltage curve to the left. I think Bjorn suspects the same because he has already realized that given a choice between more range and faster charging, he prefers the latter.