DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:09 pm

32k isn’t a bad price if you get the 3750 off on top of it.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:59 pm

cwerdna wrote:https://www.chevroletoffremont.com/Vehi ... rice%7Casc decided to discount 2 base Bolt LT’s with no options (not even DC FC inlet) a bit more off than the others (about $11.5K off), so they're openly advertised at just under $26K. The rest of the LT’s aren’t as heavily discounted. My guess is that it’s a teaser to try to get you there to upsell you to a more expensive/more well-equipped car.
GM's decision to offer Bolts without DCFC is **so** lame
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:33 pm

Oh well... buyer beware. If one wants it, it's a $750 option on both trims (for the US models). Click the window sticker link on the car to make sure it has it. I hear it's standard on Canadian Bolts but I'm not 100% sure.

It really depends on one use cases. I mean, my commute's under 13 miles each way w/free L2 charging at work. When I had a Leaf w/CHAdeMO, I used its inlet ~16 times in 2 years, on free DC FCs. All 3 of those are no longer free. IIRC, two are on Blink now so WAY costly (59 cents/kWh per for members in CA). No thanks. A bunch of other free CHAdeMO chargers that I never used are gone (Nissan's research office in Sunnyvale) or broken now (VW's research office in Belmont, DC FC is usually broken) or no longer free (Boardwalk Nissan in Redwood City).

The used '13 Leaf I have now doesn't even have CHAdeMO. I bought it in mid July 2015 and it was my primary car until end of Jan 2019. I had my 06 Prius as my "range extender".

Someone at my work who's had a '17 Bolt for a little while (leasing) didn't even realize she HAD the DC FC inlet (it was related to the DC FCs down the road from us). A few months ago, she told me she didn't have it, saying she didn't pay for it. I happened to be w/her near her car and saw the orange flap (ONLY on Bolts w/SAE Combo). I flipped it down and pointed it to her, telling her she did and that she ended up paying for it one way or another.

Maybe she was confused given that she had a gen 1 Leaf S before (leased, started lease sometime in 2014 or earlier) and I believe she had the charge package, so it would've had CHAdeMO.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:58 pm

cwerdna wrote:Oh well... buyer beware. If one wants it, it's a $750 option on both trims (for the US models).
So far as I know, it cannot be added to the cars on the dealer lot
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:55 pm

SageBrush wrote:
cwerdna wrote:Oh well... buyer beware. If one wants it, it's a $750 option on both trims (for the US models).
So far as I know, it cannot be added to the cars on the dealer lot
Correct.

FWIW, it's not like the Bolt is an awesome road trip vehicle anyway. It seems like DC FCing maxes out at 55 kW (need an FC that's rated at 62.5+ kW or high enough amperage at the voltage that the Bolt runs at). I've had my Bolt since end of Jan 2019. I've personally used the SAE Combo portion exactly once so far at https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=559905#p559905, on a "24 kW" DC charger. It was free and I didn't actually need the juice to make it home.

My dealer used their 24 or 25 kW DC charger on my car before I picked it up.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:20 am

cwerdna wrote: FWIW, it's not like the Bolt is an awesome road trip vehicle anyway.
I know, but ask any 40 kWh or 62 kWh owner if they covet reliable 50 kW DCFC'g
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:21 am

Still a good deal and I know two people who only use their Bolts for their work commute and basically never charge publicly (or at least that is the plan). Even in that limited capacity, they are saving a bundle.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:45 pm

Wow. I just noticed at https://www.chevroletoffremont.com/Vehi ... %20Premier that two Premier Bolts are being advertised for $14K off MSRP ($43,290 MSRP and their openly advertised price of $29,290). They have DC FC inlet and infotainment package (for better stereo) but doesn't have driver confidence II. My Bolt has all 3. It has two crap accessories: "LPO, Interior Protection Package" and "LPO, Cargo net".

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:07 pm

That’s a pretty sweet price with fed discount included.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt - 60 kWh, 238 mi, < 7s 0-60

Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:24 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:07 pm
That’s a pretty sweet price with fed discount included.
Yeah, but Federal tax credit is only $3750 on GM EVs/PHEVs right now.

For those in CA w/a low enough income, they can get another $2500 (https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/eligible-vehicles https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/inco ... income-cap). And, some utilities have rebates. PG&E provides a one-time $800: https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/s ... icles.page.

Cheapest Bolt (LT w/no options) is being openly advertised for $25,240 (MSRP $37,495): https://www.chevroletoffremont.com/Vehi ... rice%7Casc.

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