cwerdna
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:09 am

EV lease deals put Chevy Bolt and Hyundai IONIQ below $200/month
https://electrek.co/2020/09/07/ev-lease ... 200-month/ - haven't looked into details yet

GM partners with Uber to help drivers buy Chevy Bolt EV with deep discounts
https://electrek.co/2020/09/08/gm-partn ... discounts/

Over the weekend, my city hit high temps of over 100 F, as high as ~106 F. We'd been going thru a heat wave lately. At least once, I had thermal management kick in when I plugged (only for that, not to charge as I my SoC was way above target charge level) when I arrived home. Also, left car plugged in so that TMS could run as needed.

In contrast, yesterday, I charged up my Leaf on free L2 and elsewhere for free that night. Leaf was in garage during the daytime. At night, its battery temp was a bit past 90 F. Left car outside at night and battery only cooled to around 76 to 79 F, depending on which sensor it was.

'19 Bolt Premier
'13 Leaf SV w/premium (owned)
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SageBrush
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:51 pm

Here
https://www.mayse.com/VehicleSearchResu ... dyType=SUV

are pretty tremendous prices, even after ignoring the BS $1,000 'discount with trade.'
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cwerdna
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:43 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:51 pm
Here
https://www.mayse.com/VehicleSearchResu ... dyType=SUV

are pretty tremendous prices, even after ignoring the BS $1,000 'discount with trade.'
Wow. The cheapest ones don't have DC FC inlet though.

Cheapest with is $20,395 (including that $1K off for 2016+ trade in). Regardless, prices sound really good, if they're legit.

'19 Bolt Premier
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iPlug
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:58 pm

So many 2+ vehicle households with a place to plug-in at home. How are there not already so many more folks that have a Leaf or Bolt or Ioniq BEV as their second driver vehicle? Doesn't even pass the upfront "but the cost" test any longer.
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cwerdna
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:00 pm

iPlug wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:58 pm
So many 2+ vehicle households with a place to plug-in at home. How are there not already so many more folks that have a Leaf or Bolt or Ioniq BEV as their second driver vehicle? Doesn't even pass the upfront "but the cost" test any longer.
ioniq BEV for the US is a compliance car. Per https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicl ... q-electric, "Sold in select states" which leads to "Available in California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Vermont."

Live outside those states and want an Ioniq BEV? Have fun with that, esp. when it comes to service...

One problem is that some of the deals may not be well known. Some people just Google for or know about the (crazy high for this day and age) MSRP on Bolts and then see the price of the Model 3... guess which one they go for?

Folks balk at the charging time (for no reason) on level 2. And, many may balk at having to spend an unknown amount of $ to install an L2 EVSE. In some cases, it can be high (http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8264#p8264 like for me isn't the highest I've heard. Back in 2011, I recall hearing of even $6K.)

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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:06 am

iPlug wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:58 pm
So many 2+ vehicle households with a place to plug-in at home. How are there not already so many more folks that have a Leaf or Bolt or Ioniq BEV as their second driver vehicle? Doesn't even pass the upfront "but the cost" test any longer.
Its still change and that is something we only do dragged and kicking when forced...usually.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:13 am

We have missed our ICE vehicles exactly 0 days since we sold the minivan, and have had exactly 0 range/experience issues.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:13 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:13 am
We have missed our ICE vehicles exactly 0 days since we sold the minivan, and have had exactly 0 range/experience issues.
Have you missed the interior room?
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:23 pm

Not yet.

As of this morning we went from 3 to 4 drivers in the house (Kids 18, 16, and 12).

We ditched the van because 1. It was 13 years old (but great condition physically) so wanted it sold before the next big repair. 2. No one wanted to drive it (like a meandering tank and a sail on the highway). 3. Didnt want to pay for 3 cars, but needed a second car my son could take to college classes (before they called off the remaining in person classes). 4. It rarely was used. 5. Kids fought like hell not to sit in back, so guess what....no back row now. 5. I was stuck with fill ups, and love evs. I will admit to this board, I had hoped the eNiro would have come to the midwest for comparison, but gave up waiting..that and I don't like our Kia dealers service dept. (Van was a Kia Sedona).

This weekend we did our second 5 in the car Skokie to Wisconsin (south west of Milwaukee) trip in a day. About 88 miles and 80-85 minutes each way. We take the S+ so i can run the car north of 70mph without worrying about range. The SV+ does the trip fine, but I can't confidently push 75-80mph in the stretch between Gurnee and south Milwaukee without getting a little conservation minded. We rolled in with 15% dash (so..24ish% LS) and 40 miles on the gom after the 176 miles. Kids sometimes fight a little, but if they have their phones, its pretty quiet for most of the ride. I offer to sit in the back and let the others drive, but am scolded for that suggestion. I do enjoy sitting in the back (I am 6'2" and 210 lbs).

I am working on the wife to try a road trip (either Baltimore or Colorado), maybe post a vaccine.
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cwerdna
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:23 pm

In Q3 2020, Chevrolet Bolt EV Sales In The U.S. Improved By 18%
https://insideevs.com/news/446871/q3-20 ... -sales-us/

https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NASAp ... &year=2021 was posted in a FB group today. The author said
2021 Bolt Ev ordering guide is now available
...
Looks like the only major changes are that DCFC is standard on the Premier, and if you want DCFC on an LT, you have to select the Comfort and Convenience package.
I can confirm the DC FC standard on Premier part. I haven't carefully looked over the rest. For whatever reason, Bolt is listed under Chevy truck.

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