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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:45 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:48 pm
Chevy offers 0% financing on used (certified) Bolt EV and Volt
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... v-and-volt

The stop sale on '17 to '18 + affected '19s appears to be still in effect and those are decertified right now anyway. So, I guess for Bolt, you'd have to spring for a used certified unaffected '19 or '20, unless GM lifts the stop sale on the other vehicles and undoes the temporary decertification.
Assuming they aren't jacking up the price to cover financing, this will be a great deal for anyone entering EVton.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:27 pm

I think I'll wait for $99/$99 leases.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:13 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:27 pm
I think I'll wait for $99/$99 leases.
There are some "$99"/mo or less leases of Bolts that I've seen but they're usually with some big amount of $ down.

I found some at http://ev-vin.blogspot.com/, for example.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 pm

Yep, that's why I specified the down payment as well. When I get my $99/$99 2018 Bolt, I'll park it by the river. Maybe I'll carry a fire extinguisher, like I did with my old Volvo 122.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:21 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 pm
Yep, that's why I specified the down payment as well. When I get my $99/$99 2018 Bolt, I'll park it by the river. Maybe I'll carry a fire extinguisher, like I did with my old Volvo 122.
lol
It is not a bad thought to buy one of these jailed cars on the cheap, and then park it somewhere safe and wait for GM to either fix it (increasingly doubtful) or offer compensation. The class action lawyers must be drooling.

Knowing GM, they are hoping to be able to convince the regulatory authorities that a SoC limit of e.g. 90% solves the safety issue. If that is accepted then GM negotiates with its customers for compensation for loss of 10% of battery capacity. That is likely to be expensive for GM since ~ 65% remaining capacity is considered EOL.

My guess then is either a $10k present, or a buyback.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:22 am

It is not a bad thought to buy one of these jailed cars on the cheap, and then park it somewhere safe and wait for GM to either fix it (increasingly doubtful) or offer compensation.
Except that they apparently can't legally sell them. I'm guessing lease Fire Sale, soon. As soon as they come up with a bandaid, like limiting SOC to 80%.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:08 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:22 am
It is not a bad thought to buy one of these jailed cars on the cheap, and then park it somewhere safe and wait for GM to either fix it (increasingly doubtful) or offer compensation.
Except that they apparently can't legally sell them. I'm guessing lease Fire Sale, soon. As soon as they come up with a bandaid, like limiting SOC to 80%.
So, I'm seeing conflicting info on this. Is this "stop sale" thingy affecting all new Bolts? There have been 9 left over 2019's on lots around here for three months. Is this why? There is also about 250 or so 2020's that are not moving.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:23 pm

According to Cwerdna, not all Bolts are affected by the issue. So some have to stay on the lots, while others can be sold. IIRC.
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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:37 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:23 pm
According to Cwerdna, not all Bolts are affected by the issue. So some have to stay on the lots, while others can be sold. IIRC.
Correct. At last check as of a few days ago (and all throughout this), my '19 Bolt is not affected per My Chevrolet app and after entry of my VIN into NHTSA's site, I have 0 unrepaired/open recalls.

I've never had any recall work done on my car. Heck, it's not gone back to any Chevy dealer for service once since I bought it almost 2 years ago. I missed my free 1st tire rotation (included w/all Bolts) as it expired by time. Apparently, I needed to get it done within 12 months. Ended up having the rotation done elsewhere.

Q12 of https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2020/R ... 1-9894.pdf also addresses this. It's one of the 15 associated docs at https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2019/CHEV ... WD#recalls for campaign 20V701000. Still waiting for this to grow beyond 15, hopefully w/more useful info.

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Re: Chevrolet Bolt

Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:22 am
As soon as they come up with a bandaid, like limiting SOC to 80%.
That could make for an impressively long lived 48 kWh battery.

My wife hates the idea, but I keep thinking that a fire-sale Bolt could be a nice car purchase once the fire risk is resolved ... if the fire risk is ever resolved.
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