evnow wrote:As the first gen 2 plugin (ignoring roadster) - I've to wonder if this is what we would see going forward.
- 30% more range
- 10% more mpg
- 3% price cut
If Leaf 2 has figures like this compared to Gen 1, it would be DOA. I want
- 100% more range (atleast optionally)
- Double range for nearly the same price as top line model now
- Non-polarizing looks
Are my expectations for Gen 2, too high ?
The leaf and volt gen 2 both have different expectations for their companies. Chev has always said they needed to save money on making the car that it needs to turn a profit. We see that with essentially a carry over battery design where most of the extra range is from opening up usable capacity. We also see that GM will start using the voltec drivetrain as a non PHEV in the Malibu hybrid and then going into new territory with the bolt. GM said back in 2012 I think they needed to take $10k out of the cost of the car. They then cut the price $5K so assuming they did this and dropped the price a bit there should be $4k or so in profit now.
Leaf 2 Nissan has said the aim is still to take it more mainstream, ie higher volume. To do this Nissan may still be willing to take a loss on the car for the first few model years. Last thing I read on leaf and profit said Nissan hasn't recovered the cost of full development of the program but that the car turns a profit for what it costs to make one.
Wennfred wrote:Getting the red one in October, will change tires to Ecopia's & remove 6 gallons from the gas tank this should lighten the load and give it a little more range, also install the aeromod infront of the tires. The 50 mile or so range will cover my daily commute to work & back.
Unless you work the tires into the deal and getting the dealer to put them on prior to delivery buying new tires will never pay for itself vs using the ICE for the few times new tires would make it on EV only and stock tires wouldn't.